DA Confusion for the 5th of May, 2023 Posted on 4 May 2023 by AS Have your confusions sorted out for this week’s DA.
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A bit off track, but continuing last week’s discussions
Muntz commented –
Tuesday’s 26A: Survived D. Astle cryptic (6)
My response –
Yes, I am still smiling at that one.
Thought maybe we should run a contest (no prizes except personal satisfaction) for the best clue involving DA.
My contribution (which I am sure will be trumped by other DA Trippers):
Legless pre D. Astle puzzle (9)
No real BBQ stoppers today; although I didn’t know 25A it was clear from the clue. Done in my usual time.
FOI 13A, 10A. LOI 14A, 24A.
About half out, mostly the lower half and RHS. I usually don’t like clues in the style of 8D but this one is a good example of it’s kind…I liked it anyway. Will come back when I’ve solved a few more.
First pass 1a,11a,13a,18a,26a,2d,5d,8d,22d,23d. LOI 17a. Some may not have heard of 22d and 25a as AndrewT says is not a common word. Otherwise pretty standard stuff today I thought.
A fairly typical DA today. I had to reveal 20d as I’d never heard of them. Also didn’t know 22d and have never heard of 25a. Haven’t fully parsed 6d, 2d, 14a and 1d, and I don’t see what Sue has to do with 10a. No help requested yet, good people, as some may hit me when I look with fresh eyes in a few hours.
NW last in. 1Aa made me laugh when I got it, as we had a Corgi called Bimbo, pretty low to the ground she was.
I find that long answers, with multi and/or hyphenated words, are usually pretty easy to get, but not today, except for 3a, 8d and 26a. Misdirected with 12a, and the others intersecting, 9d and 21a, also gave me a bit of grief. Overthinking 17A, as is often the case with clues with a question mark, didn’t help either.
Liked 22d and 3a. 25a was also a chuckle. I didn’t know the word but I did go looking in the right place. Hope DA doesn’t mind if we use that at highbrow parties.
I’m stuck on most of LHS: 1A and D; 10A, 14A, 19A, and 5D. Gentle help welcome.
OK SW done; just 1A and D, 10A, 14A and 5D to go
SB – some hints:
1A – defn = last word and “Bimbo’s bottom” = 2.
1D – a 3LW for “Yank” and a 4LW for “HQ” – both truncated.
10A – “Sue” gives 1,2,3 and “winter coat” gives 4,5,6,7.
14A – where’s Albany? Defn = “Mentor”.
5D – “back of leaf” = 3,4,5,6,7.
All out but not all understood. I can see where Albany is in 14a. But I don’t get the rest. I have no idea how 17a works. And I can’t see how ‘that girl’ gives the second word of 2d.
Sandy Mc – for fear of retribution, I will presume you would like some help….
14A – what nationality is 11A? – and then find the translation for a word in 14A clue to give 3,4,5.
17A – if you take 17A as 2-word answer, then “Novel” is a synonym for the first and “demand” for the second.
2D – “that girl” gives 6,7 8,9 just as “hand” gives 1,2.
Thanks DAJunkie. I had seen Albany region as 2,3. I should have looked more specific. As for 17a , novel is a bit of a stretch as a synonym.
Thanks DAJ! You’re a champ. – done and dusted.
Andrew C, how about:
Unhappy setter’s knocking back the wine (3,4)
Puzzle diva slated cruciverbalist (5,5)
Am I the only one who thinks the definition and answer to 16D don’t match? The definition means confused or baffled. The answer means something else entirely.
Geoff D: I thought the meaning was pretty close. Someone who is 16D will often appear befuddled?
Mostly straight forward. Almost dull. Like a few solvers, NW corner was last.
I had 1A left to finish – there’s a highly vulgar solution… Not again! ;)
Enjoyed 4D, 8D, 22D
Gripes / queries:
10A: 1-3 seems a stretch?
14A: Mentor? Maybe guru is closer.
24A: how is this even cryptic?
5D: where does 2-6 come from?
No idea on how to parse 17A, 1D, 6D
10A – by my thesaurus, “Sue” is a direct synonym of 1,2,3 – and vice versa.
5D – see my reply 5 May 2023 at 2:57 pm ie: “back of leaf” = 3,4,5,6,7. And “Hand out” gives 1,2,8,9.
17A – see my reply 5 May 2023 at 3:47 pm ie:– if you take 17A as 2-word answer, then “Novel” is a synonym for the first (as in 1,2,3,4 of literature) and “demand” for the second.
1D – see my reply 5 May 2023 at 2:57 pm ie: – a 3LW for “Yank” and a 4LW for “HQ” – both truncated.
6D – “Fruit” = defn. “Bearing said” gives 1,2,3,4. “to rise” gives 5,6,7,8. “covering” gives 11,12,13. “also” gives 9,10,14.
Hi Muntz. Perhaps I’m being too picky (again). I’ve always regarded the answer as being semi- or unconscious, as in ‘a drunken ……….. ‘ which I find a bit more drastic than just being bewildered or confused. But maybe it is a matter of degree.
10A Sue sounds to me like a demand, but DA loves to connect the most tenuous of thesaurus entries, hey. I got the answer, but still want to gripe!
5D Never heard of that word (back of leaf) but only thing that worked
17A Yeah, ok, like **** of art
1D Only word that made sense, but would never have seen those two words truncated
6D Ah, bearing as in demeanor, gotcha
I was pleased to finish this although I had to check/confirm some on the net afterwards
Was there a DA Confusion for 28th of April?
Got finished at 11.30 this morning, with a few hints from DAJ’s 5/5 2.57 pm (1A, 1D, 10A, 14A) then a fresh mind in the morning to finish off the lst 9 clues (last in 15A)! Thanks DAJ!
Got fooled by the misdirection in 17A (looked for anagram of “demand for”), but when the letters didn’t fit I saw what was really required.
Glad to see a couple of entries in the challenge –
Tim C – I like your work!
DA#2 – Had to think a bit about that one – always a good sign! It would only work on a Friday :-)
I have a couple more in my thoughts, but would love to see others’ contributions.
DAC for 28 April was a continuation of the one for 21 April. Quite an interesting conversation on a number of topics if you have a look.
Andrew C, you may be interest in my latest effort http://www.mycrossword.co.uk/cryptic/1136 which is based on an idea in one of DA’s crosswords from a couple of years ago.
Thanks Tim C
Will see how I go – always interesting to try a new setter, as each has their own style/quirks!
About DA’s swindle … (4)
DA#2 – you’ve got me on that one. Does it need the other end of the ellipsis to solve?
Tim C – you’re as tough as DA on a hard day! Only got 4 on the first go round, will need to give it more time. Doubly difficult as the key is buried until you work out which 2 are the key, and the “unconventional” ones are not identified.
No, actually, it doesn’t.
DA#2 – after a lot of mulling around, my answer is AMID.
DA#2 – your 5/5 contribution, my answer is SAD SACK.
Hope I have correctly solved!
SAD SACK is what I had in mind – but not AMID.
DA#2 – Any hints?
OK, Andrew C.
About = approximately.
Should I explain my thinking?
DA#2 – please do.
Having a crack at LR today but can’t parse this one:
15 across Scholars at odds were expelled from beach areas (6)
I saw that one and thought it must be faulty. It only clues COAST as -c-o-a-s -t, leaving the final S unclued.
About DA’s swindle … (4)
About (= approx.): C
So CASTLE, = ROOK!
Thanks DA#2 – all is clear now! I’ll take that one and raise it – First class about DA’s swindle makes me sick (5)
PW and N – re LR 15A, I agree with you that for completeness the last S needed to be clued.
DA#2 – Just my 2c – “swindle” may mean “rook” and “rook” may mean “castle” but I do not think “swindle” can become “rook”. So I think defn is not quite there.
And Andrew C – ??? – CASTLE? CROOK? Neither quite right by me.
Am I missing something here? Probably am.
DAJ – I just took DA#2,s clue, added first class (C in position 1) and definition of final answer is “sick”, hence C+ROOK = CROOK. (I tried it with “ill” for definition at first, but it just looked like 3 vertical lines on my screen)
On reflection, my suggestion was probably too convoluted to work as a clue.
Still open for more suggestions of DA-related clues!