DA Confusion for the 4th of June, 2021

Don’t let the lockdown get you down: have your confusions sorted out for this week’s DA.

57 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 4th of June, 2021

  1. A not too difficult DA today. Easy starters 24d, 2d, 5d, 18a, 21d, 27a & 19d.
    Only wordplay I’m not sure of is 11a.
    Happy solving

  2. Morning Trippers
    Started off with the long’uns and the NW thinking this is the easiest DA ever. 9D? He must have something in store. Ended up with a couple to parse and a couple of queries.

    28A fell in on getting the second last letter with the letter count and def, but haven’t parsed it yet.
    23D I don’t think that’s right, or there’s something I’m missing, but I’ve enjoyed reading Dvořák biographies. Found something we have in common, both the eldest children of butchers. : -)
    18A I only ever find in crosswords.
    Don’t understand 25A.

  3. Gayle,
    I too have not parsed 28A.
    And yes I came up with slight difference in 23D as well.
    25A – think no men.

  4. Thanks DA Junkie for 25A . Once I looked up the (full) word I couldn’t unsee it.

  5. Ah, got 28A. Figured out the back end first, even though as it turned out the front end was less complex, once I could see it. I was trying to fit too many bits in there.
    Breakdown is letters 1-7, and 8 -13.

  6. Gayle – yep – I must have got at about same time as you. I did not know that meaning for 5 of the back end and had to check / lookup.

  7. Easiest one I can remember, a record solving time for me. Only came across that meaning of 18A for the first time in a Guardian crossie the other day.

    FOI 1A, 10A; LOI 28A, 26A.

  8. Much easier than usual today, but still satisfying and enjoyable, with plenty of smiles. I was stuck with 27a, as I had the wrong starting letter. But I was sure I had 21d right — has DA made an error in 21d? Wikipedia leads me to conjecture that he may have the fourth and fifth letters reversed.

    I was disappointed with 2d, as it looked like one of those awful contrived anagrams that we occasionally encounter on other days of the week, but I took it all back when I discovered that JLo is legit!

    Haven’t fully parsed 28a yet — I hope it will hit me soon.

  9. Graham M, wiki tells me Goya is in both places. I suppose it comes down to what stronghold means. I’d say the alternative you suggest is not technically a stronghold, although neither is the answer, but there’s a cryptic sense of it there.

  10. Yes, straightforward but satisfying – nothing wrong with that every so often. Still not quite clear about 5D though.

  11. Ian, the large xylophone has seven letters, two of which need to be excised.

  12. Can’t see 11A, but pretty sure I’ve got all the letters right.
    Help, please.
    bbOZ

  13. Starters 26a,27a,2d,8d,24a and even though I’m 8d, it all dropped out easily. LOI 28a (and understood. Favourite 22a for “sunshades”.

    No, NonithePony, I don’t think you have been mispronouncing 11a. It’s a short ‘a’ according to Chambers, so the intended homonym is iffy unless it’s an Australian thing.

  14. Thanks Tim, but sadly I don’t yet have a word to mispronounce!
    bbOZ

  15. I’m in the near/record cohort – what shall I do with the rest of my week??!!
    So Friday is un-natural – dare I say raw? – for me to be ‘helping’, Billyboy – I’ll need to be careful! It’s been dropped already that 11a is homophonic, so you’ll recognise the indicator and thus know which end of the clue the definition’s at. Any ‘help?

  16. Tim, I’m not spoiling for a fight, but Oxford and other sources pronounce 11a DA’s way, which is how the Swiss would say it.

  17. Meant to ask; what’s the Goya discussion about? I only know the one ‘strong holder’ of his work that fits…
    Re Dvorak, yes, perhaps DA should have chosen ‘one’ so christened!
    Also, found today’s puzzle unusually heavy with big anagramming (don’t mind it, but I suspect it’s not the most challenging/interesting form for DA?)

  18. Johnno2, when I first researched Goya in Wikipedia, it led me to 21d but with the fourth and fifth letters reversed. But, as Gayle pointed out, the correct answer is also justifiable.

  19. Interesting Graham M re 11a. There’s obviously differences out there. Incidentally, the word isn’t in the full OED. Maybe it’s just my North of England background that leads me to favouring flattened vowels. ;)

  20. Speaking of the homophone in 11a, DA’s done it again with a foreign word. The Swiss pronounce almost of the letters in that word differently, and even anglophones, as Tim C says, will have variant pronunciations of the anglicized word.

    I was wondering if DA had intended to have a go at Dvořák, with or without the diacritics, but decided it was a bridge too far.

    For a bit of light entertainment and linguistic challenge (and coincidentally, *spoiler alert*, the correct answer for 23d at the very end):

  21. I’m going to send AS an email to see if he can take down the you tube. I think it might be slowing down the site.

  22. Straightforward even for me. Like Cokes and Graham M, I can’t parse 28A – is (9) an abbreviation? If it is I’ve not seen it used before. And for the experts, doesn’t the indicator in 18A usually mean (although not in this case) that you should swap around the order of the first 2 letters?

  23. Agree Slow A, re 18A, although it could be even lower than that. It struck me too that the indicator was more than misdirecting and verging on wrong.

  24. And yes, letter 9 in 28a is an abbreviation.
    Letters 1-7 are clued by the first 3 words, and I think you may have 8-13.

  25. SlowA, I was trying to use a six-letter word for “cheats” beginning with “c”, and couldn’t work out how the “c” disappeared. In fact the word for “cheats” has but five letters, and is less commonly used for this meaning — more often as a verb, I think.

  26. 18a was another iffy clue for me. I guess in a down clue “lowering head” would mean take the first letter and move it down. That’s what I thought at first but I couldn’t make sense of the definition in that case. I came to the conclusion that “lowering head” was a truncation indicator for a 6 letter word meaning kowtowed.

    I remember that the abbreviation for letter 9 in 28a was used not that long ago in a DA crossword. See https://datrippers.com/2020/11/19/da-confusion-for-the-20th-of-november-2020/ (and my comment @ 12:56 pm on 22 Nov)

  27. Why is it that every time everyone says how easy it is I can’t going at all.

  28. Yes JillD, if this is as easy as everyone says it’s clearly time for me to give up attempting DA’s puzzles. I have barely a quarter of the answers.

  29. JillD and GeoffD , know what you mean, and while I found it a relatively quick fill, at the beginning, other clues later were a challenge.

    Looking back, I have to give it to DA. He made it look easy, but he used just about every trick in the book, and there were a few errors.

    Sing out with any questions about particular clues. Someone here will have probably had the same.

  30. The only suggestion I can make JillD and GeoffD is to go through the list of starters (more at the start of the thread) and keep going. Gayle’s suggestions are also good. There are plenty on here to supply a gentle hint or 2.

  31. Not too bad, though I cheated with 1ac. some I got from definitions, then had to work out word play.

  32. So how am I supposed to spend another lockdown weekend now that I’ve finished my DA? Normally don’t even have one on the board by this time.

  33. Time to trawl through the archives; which other setters to people rate?

  34. Victor, my list of favourites at the Guardian is Vulcan, Arachne, Pan, Tramp, Matilda, Philistine, Shed, Brummie, Chifonie, Carpathian, Everyman, Anto, Hectence. At the Financial Times Neo, Velia, Hamilton, Gozo, Moo, Slormgorm, Orense, Julius, Peto, Falcon, Zamorca, Bradman, Wanderer.

  35. Definitely an easier DA. Shared Gayle’s experience. Came to trippers with 1A & 5D to finish. Thanks to GrahamM for 5D and then 1A fell into place. First word in 21D is Spanish full title is Museo ——— — — — ——
    Are letters 8&9 of 28A an abbreviation?

  36. Ian S, Only letter 9 is an abbreviation in 28A. The ‘cheats’ word is not all that common, and usually used as a transitive verb to swindle or defraud or cheat in games of cards or dice. I’ve never heard it said.

  37. Thanks Gayle Like TimC I’m 8D and I’m familiar with cheats. When I solved 28A The answer came first and then I was parsing the wordplay and thought DA was beheading both happy and cheats. Letter 9 only hit me after my post and I hadn’t really accounted for its inclusion. I like the inclusion (smuggling) of 9 within your word for cheats.
    Clarification of my 21D comment 1st word is Spanish definite article

  38. Where can I access some of his Mick?

    Victor, have a go at Azed in the Guardian tomorrow. It’s the monthly competition one.

  39. I’m a bit new to this. Can anyone help with the wordplay for 8d. I have the answer but can’t parse it.

  40. Tim C – I’m looking through the Guardian app but can’t find Azed in the crosswords anywhere; neither today nor the previous month or two. How do you access it?

    Tracey: jumble words 2 & 3, then insert a ‘mug’

  41. Tim C – never mind; found it on the website. Seems like it’s not in the app.

  42. Enjoyable and quite easy.

    8a I still can’t see how letter 9 is produced. Cheats = 8 & 10-13. What is 9 an abbreviation for? I assume that it’s not the drug, since that’s seems to be 7.

    Quibble: Dvorak’s first name is 7 letters- why use a Germanic version of it?

  43. 9 is the drug richard. See my post above @ 5:08pm on 4 Jun. It’s listed in Chambers as an abbreviation for heroin. 7 is part of “happy” (stripped) so the breakdown is “happy to strip”1-7, “cheats” 8,10-13, “drug” (smuggled)9 giving nervy.

  44. @richard, no idea why DA clued Dvořák’s first name that way. Never found anything on the web to indicate that. Where did he get it?

  45. TimC thanks- I wondered about that, but I thought that the drug was e at 7. I misled myself by taking happy to be “content” less its first letter, but I see now that strip means use contented, missing both first and last.

    Gayle- thanks, agreed.

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