DA Confusion for the 28th of May, 2021

Have your confusions sorted out for this week’s DA.

And keep safe all of you!

59 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 28th of May, 2021

  1. OK – finally complete. Found some wordplays really tough.
    Had difficulty with the E side – and particularly the NE.
    FOI was 10A.
    LOI was 17D.
    Thought 11A, 16A , 27A and 28A pretty clever.

  2. Agree, a bit chewy. Yes, don’t know what’s supposed to be happening in 15D.

    First in 21A, 22D, 24A, 14A
    LOI 5A (cheated) even though I twigged to the end of the word early on. Still can’t parse it.
    Finally got 3D. Had the wrong guess for the first 2 words and then couldn’t unsee it, or parse the rest.

    Likes: 26A, and 27A.

  3. I too have not yet fully parsed 15D, not helped by having the wrong first letter initially.

    As for parsing 5A, reverse the first 4 letters of the answer – does that help?

    FOI 10A 13A, LOI 19D 9D.

  4. Gayle – 5A is quite tough. Lot’s of different ways to interpret. I got completely muddled for a long time.
    If interested look for hint in other thread.

  5. Gayle re 26A, from my recollections of geometry the main co-ordinates were the second letter in the answer and the one before it in the alphabet: not the one after.

    Re 28A I do not understand the reference to Collingwood, but then I don’t know much about the place.

  6. Pedant correction: not necessarily.

    After thoroughly enjoying last week’s, I found today’s hard work, and gave up after having only half finished.

    Does “scarcely” now mean “truncated”?

  7. Peter, all three of those letters are coordinates in a 3D system.
    The last 4 letters of the answer is a short form of the AFL team name, derived from their colour scheme.

    Graham M: apparently so!

  8. Only got 22a at the first pass through which signalled the struggle to come. LOI 19d… having the wrong answer to 28a didn’t help as I’d taken the definition as “flower” and used an abbreviation for population (“people”).
    Favourite was 11d but there were a lot of non-favourites. Agree DAJunkie about the dyslexia in 15d and the irksome “scarcely” in 6d, Graham M. My other whinges were 10d (shouldn’t that be a “diminutive diminutive singer”), 14d for “nurse” (“nurses”?), 2d (“mens”?) among others.
    What a pity after last week’s brilliant effort.

  9. Admitting defeat. All done bar 25D &29A. Found eastern half tougher today!

  10. Same, Brond, except I also don’t have 19D / 28A; and if 17D is correct I don’t get the wordplay; also don’t understand wordplay of 9D. It was a hard slog today.

  11. Update – Now have 29A – synonym for 11A, and 25D used in a different sense here.

  12. OK – all done but not sure of wordplay for 9D, 17D, 19D, or 1st 3 letters of 28A

  13. 9D – first word, homophone of plan, less first letter. Second word – a “gear”. Defn “like theirs, say”.
    17D – key is reverse (“about”).
    28A – 1,2,3 is a synonym for “in”.

  14. I’m not sure that DA has it wrong in 15D; it is, however, convoluted.

    19D is also a stretch.

  15. Jack, Can you explicate re 15D? I can’t see any way that it’s not the letter-swap error mentioned above.

  16. Maybe explain in the other thread Jack to avoid spoilers in here. I’m also interested to find out whether I’ve been hasty in my judgement about 15d.

  17. AG and Tim C, I think you are right. I just felt, however, that there could be a case for behind bars representing the position of a soccer or hockey goalkeeper! Probably not! Maybe I’m trying to defend the indefensible.

    I also believe that 5A has pretty crummy wordplay.

  18. Agree with the wordplay error in 15d, but I like the double Harrison Ford reference at the beginning of the clue.

  19. I didn’t like this -messy and ugly. I agree with Tim C’s complaints. I’ve never heard of 5a’s softball. 20a- is the ugly word “thesps” a misdirection, as the clue works perfectly with the full word? Despite answers, I can’t parse 1a, 29a, 8/23d and 19d. 21d was clever- I must remember “in speech” in case DA uses it again. Likewise “in” in 29a.

  20. In 1A, the definition is ‘goal;’ remedy = 1,5,6,7.; scores = lots, then remove ‘t’ (time out).

    In 29A, chair = prof and exploit = use.

    8,23 is a term meaning to update an objective. skip = miss; the remainder is an anagram of ‘one price.’

    I can’t parse 19D properly either.

  21. I just took 19d as a long cryptic definition. “once deemed bogus” refers to the first impression of scientists that it was a fake formed by sewing several animals together, “12-across layer” because it’s an Australian monotreme and “bogus offshoot” because the plural is “puses” not “pi”. I can’t see any component wordplay.

  22. Thanks, Tim C. That makes sense. The part that had me puzzled was the ‘bogus offshoot,’ but, as you say, it relates to the false plural.

  23. Thanks Jack and TimC: I got the bogus ref to the monotreme , but think that the bogus plural is clunky- almost as bad as the word itself.

  24. richard , AndrewT, or someone, please help with parsing 5A. I can’t see where the softbal (P O?) comes into it, and reversing the first 4 letters doesn’t work for me.

    TimC -where is “the other thread” ?

  25. softball is NERF backwards. then ultimate frisbee is 5 and fancy that= 6,7

    I had never heard of it but see this google search dated 2017 ” Well, that would be the introduction of the Nerf ball, a four-inch foam ball officially marketed as “the world’s first indoor ball.” ..

  26. Mike, google those four letters. That’s what I did. I’d never heard of it either.

  27. Thanks, Andrew T and Tim C, for parsing 5a and 19d respectively. I never would have figured out either of them.
    I have no issue with 10a though. A (1) diminutive singer (3-5) joining tempestuous duet (2,6-8).

  28. Mike, there are two threads started each Friday, one called “DA Confusion for ‘date’ ” and one called “DA for ‘date’ “. There’s a link for it at the top of this page and also on the home page datrippers.com. The second thread is a good place for discussion without worrying too much about spoilers.

    The softball also held me up and I too was trying to use P O. I’d heard of Nerf Guns and I have some in the house but they shoot foam discs not balls so the penny didn’t drop for ages.

    David S, I had a different take on 10a. “A diminutive singer” is 1-4 (from ‘Little Pattie’) and joining tempestuous duet as 5-8. I like your version but then I would complain that “joining” isn’t an inclusion indicator.

  29. Very enjoyable today, as it made us work hard. Particularly liked 21D, 5A and 12A

  30. I agree with you about Little Pattie, Tm C. “He’s My Blonde-Headed, Stompie Wompie, Real Gone Surfer Boy”

  31. Could someone put me out of my misery and fully parse 5a in DA Reports? I have seen the hint and it hasn’t enlightened me.

  32. Many thanks all – a tough DA, engaging comments, and replay of the Giro d’Italia has almost got me through day 2 of the Melbourne lock-down.

    Suet – see first sentence from richard at 12.11 today

  33. Finally finished
    Thanks everyone for the helpful comments
    I love all of DA’s crosswords, long may he set them
    They are so much more amusing than most of the others

  34. Thanks for all the explanations for 5A. Would never have got it as I’ve never heard of a nerf ball, so couldn’t have looked it up.

  35. Got it all out in the end; took a while to get in the flow but enjoyed quite a few. Haven’t worked out wordplay for 4-8 of 16a though.

  36. Tim C and David S, I think both of your interpretations of the word play for 10 across are very good. At first I thought of Little Pattie as the diminutive singer , and like Tim, thought it should be ‘diminutive diminutive’. On closer inspection though, diminutive singer is Little Pattie, ie shorten the word Pattie giving atti.
    David’s explanation is just as plausible. ‘Joining’ could be used in terms of joining together the letters of T U D E, like glue in between two surfaces. I still wonder if 15 D was a mistake.

  37. Been away for the weekend and wondering how 15 D is going. My earlier reservations about the grammar have been allayed. Jack’s parsing on 28th at 10:42 is plausible, but possibly generous.

    Re 10 A. Don’t think it’s got anything to do with Little Pattie. Agree with David S at 12:16 yesterday.

  38. Didn’t get to DA till today, and I have to agree with those that didn’t much like this one. Quite a contrast to last week’s brilliance. But as Melanie said above, long may DA challenge us.
    I have 3D and understand 2-5, but I can’t parse the rest at all, if anyone wants to enlighten me… (anyone still around, that is).

  39. Carol, like me you got misdirected by “court star” as 2-5 but it actually is 5-8 surrounded (“in the wings”) by “strapped” at 1-4,9. :)

  40. In favour of David S’ wordplay for 10a is the fact that DA has used “diminutive singer” for “tit” before in the 28th Nov 2009 Beatles themed crossword……

    4 down: The French contacted diminutive singer, live, for 17-down’s own (3, 2, 2) (ans. Let It Be)

  41. It was the one of quite a few I struggled with this week, Carol. It was a good misdirection.

  42. Tim, I didn’t know you were such a dedicated archivist! I first thought of Little Pattie, but on reflection the tit explanation made more sense.

  43. Is it time yet for an explanation of 15D here, please, including where people think DA was in error?
    Re 10A, can someone ask DA? I reckon it’s 50/50, and I’d be REALLY impressed if he meant both!

  44. Thanks, Carol; I have now. I was being lazy (like when I – VERY occasionally but too easily – give in to Crosswordsolver, Thesaurus and (horror of horrors) Danword). I’ve posted my two penn’orth over there.

  45. I’m not really an archivist Graham M. That crossword is from way before I started doing DA. Google (“a diminutive singer”) was my friend.

  46. Nobody seems to have had trouble with 9d. If anyone is still around, could they give me the definition at least?

  47. Thank you Graham M. Even with that hint, it took this ESL teacher much longer than it should have!

  48. Carol, I’m a (former) ESL teacher too. But this is more about PC, and I must admit I find it difficult grammatically, even though I support the intention.

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