DA Mega Confusion for the 11th of September, 2020

My humble apologies — I forgot to update this site for this week’s DA.

There’s comments all over the place. And now here’s the central location where they can congregate after my tardiness.

43 thoughts on “DA Mega Confusion for the 11th of September, 2020

  1. Thanks to DA I realise I have mispronounced 16ac for my entire life. Today’s cryptic seemed to be a 29ac easier than normal as I normally finish 8d. However it was very enjoyable 22ac.

  2. Many thanks Antonio. ]

    Today’s DA was such a pleasure that I’m glad this page was not available!

    I, like Arthur C, had difficulty with 7D although it is easy if you grasp the definition, but lots to make me smile, starting with two cups, layer upon layer, wheels about……

  3. All out without assistance today, though a couple of wordplays escape me.

    On 11A, I can see one layer but how’s the other work for 1-4?

    16A, I’ve not heard of the homophone, is it a regional thing?

    8D how is the first word clued? The rest makes sense to me.

    Thought 6D and 13D were both very clever, and 2D very neat!

  4. All done.
    I had not heard of 16a. Thought that one was a tad difficult to build.
    I did like 1a.

  5. 7D: Greek character, yes, but Homer? What have I missed?
    27A: The solution is obvious but not the wordplay – not to me, anyway, Help, please!
    11A: Is 1-4 really a layer? There is an unusual meaning (a bird) but I don’t get the connection.
    9A: A rather extreme example of the glottal “r” to achieve the desired homophone.

  6. Indigo, in 11a, evidently letters 1-4 are a bird. (I didn’t know either.) And for the first word in 8d think of “host” as in “a host of …”

  7. Alaric, 27a, remove a synonym for “trail” from “ascent” and you’re left with one letter.

  8. First ones 2D, 28A, 26D, 17A, 4D. LOI 21A. I had the more common spelling for 16A which threw me out for 13D and hence 12A for ages. Unless I’ve missed something the clue isn’t specific enough re the spelling.

    Indigo, for 8D 1-3 come from ‘host sent up’ as in “the Lord of Hosts”. That made it my favourite today

  9. Somebody commented recently that the last few DAs seem to be quite old (and I’ve found them much easier than usual). Are they being recycled for some reason? DA on holidays?

  10. I have an issue with 17A. It looks like a double definition, but my answer does not define either word in the clue.

    My other problem is letters 5-7 of 4D.

    As for 16A, it remains a mystery

  11. Tim C: Thanks for your reply. I’m very aware that Homer was Greek, but my complaint is that the answer does not fit the definition (unless I am overlooking something). It is a Greek character, not a Homeric one, unless there is something in the stories which I have missed.

  12. OPP – I too found the last few much easier (I still haven’t finished some from the weeks before that!)
    Jack – I think 17A is ok (but was one of the last I understood). I think my answer defines both but I needed a dictionary to work out (prompt my memory) how one was defined.
    4D – not sure how to give a clue without giving away too much away for a Friday
    16A -It is a bit of a strained homophone; not so unusual for DA

  13. Graham M: Thanks for your help with 27A. Understood.
    Jack Re 4d : :The extremists give you 4&5, 6-8 is a synonym for “get behind”

  14. Despite Tim’s explanation at 4:20 I still cant justify 8D. Anybody still around?

  15. Thanks alaric, I had 4-5, but my problem is 6-8, as I can’t see how this equates to “get behind”

    LJ, I guess 16A depends on how one pronounces the word. In an analogy, most Australians pronounce garden shrubs as “plants” but those trying to be up-market pronounce “plarnts”

  16. Jack – For “get behind” don’t think of a physical position, but more of a philosophical stance.
    Just noticed your comment re 17A. It is a straightforward double definition viz rake as in the incline of a slope and oval where games are played.

  17. I understand alaric re 7D. It is a bit of a stretch but I look at it as a Greek character is one written by Homer and thus can be described as a Homeric character. I guess its as obscure (dodgy?) as saying that ‘bee’ or ‘jay’ is a Shakespearean character.

    bbOz, if a cricketer scores a 3-1 (8D) he has a host of runs.

  18. Easy one this week, finished by 2pm… by my reckoning a 17a is not an oval. Some sports are played on a 17a, not AFL or cricket which play on an oval But easy enough….

  19. 21A – not sure about wordplay, do 2-5 represent an (uncovered) variant spelling?
    16A – an almost identical homophone according to the voice on the internet
    Didn’t know 23D and like others, never heard of 11A, 1-4
    After the last couple of weeks, a tough one can’t be too far away…

  20. SlowA – 21A – 3,2,1 = “Wheels around”. “Uncover faces” = 4,5,6 (mid 3 letters of a 5 letter word).

  21. I almost gave up when I couldn’t get Datrippers this morning but I surprised myself 🙂
    I really liked 9a and 7 d
    Could I get a hint for 12 and 19 please

  22. Melanie – 12A – defn = “Start to like”
    19A – ddefn – “examines” and “leaves”.

  23. BbOz, (in a green place, if I recall the Age letters correctly), a host of golden daffodils is a lot of them, or a (figurative) ton of them.

    Me, I’m a bit unhappy about 17a. It’s not a synonym for “oval”. Both alternative sporting-area meanings are rectangular in shape.

  24. I got there reasonably quickly after a scary start with nothing coming. Good misdirection in 6a held me up. 1d, 10a good fun.

  25. Chambers gives the definition of 17A as “n a place set apart for playing or practising a game” and defines ‘oval’ as “… a cricket or football ground (Aust.)”. I’d be interested in how the Macquarie Dictionary (which I think would be DA’s preference) defines those two words.

    Melanie – 12A fighting is 1-3 and cat is 4-6 with an ‘advanced’ tail.

  26. Thanks SB and DA Junkie re 21A – I was completely off beam.
    Re 17A, I haven’t checked Macquarie, but at least a couple of rectangular NRL 17As in Sydney have ‘oval’ in their name.

  27. To be fair to DA in 17A, he may be referring to THE Oval at Kennington in London; it sure has a —–(the answer). My big problem was with the second definition, as I couldn’t find the meaning of rake as an angle until alaric posted it.

  28. I agree seems easier than usual – but if it is old then the word “pandemic” in 13D is remarkably topical.

    Favourites 1A and 2D.

  29. The only time I’ve come across that use of “rake” is in relation to ceilings in real estate parlance. At first I thought it was what people did if they still had some energy to burn after they’d finished working in the garden and come back indoors …

  30. Wordplay for 6a, please, anyone?

    “Homeric” might have been better than “Homer?…

    (I’m curious: Where do occasional apparent missing posts go? Moderated out?? Just as an example (my previous observations of this have been evidently about specific posted helps but the help post doesn’t appear), Mike at 3.36 on Friday thanked Antonio for something but nothing from Antonio appears before it?…)

  31. johnno, Antonio (AS) is the host of DA Trippers and thanks to him we get to play here.

  32. johnno 6a Def element. O (for oxygen) replaces the middle letter of heavy, ie A, in a noble (title).

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