DA Confusion for the 1st of April, 2016

Don’t be an April fool: get your confusions sorted out right here.

58 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 1st of April, 2016

  1. Good morning, fellow DATrippers.

    Clicking on bold Celia above takes you to my DA DropBox folder where you’ll find a blank Excel grid for today’s DA, and other useful resources in subfolders there. Wonder what delights are in store for us here, on April Fool’s morn …

  2. Done. First in 2D. No real brilliant clue today IMHO.

    The use of a lot of shortened words today I thought.

  3. Done. Loved 11D (last out) & 18A. No April tomfoolery noticeable, beyond the usual! Happy solving, and watch your back …

  4. Good morning, Trippers. Have only nine so far, fortunately remembered the ladies from Maui.

  5. Good puzzle today, typical DA but not too difficult. 1A first in, always gets you going.
    Completed LHS before anything on RHS, although 22A and 23D jumped straight out.

  6. Liked today’s trickery. Variety of clues and some uncommon words, especially the two long ones.
    18A brought a smile. 1 A wasn’t my first in. The penny drop moment came later. Enjoyed the surface of 14A. Liked 16A, although some might find DA pushing the boundaries of ‘the rules’. Disagree with the def of 15D, but then that’s DA 15 D-ing as usual.

    Don’t know Andy about 9A, still trying to work that bit out.

  7. All in bar 11D. Can’t find a word that agrees with my cross letters, which include H, I, L, M, M, S. Is one of those wrong? My Wordfinder says ‘No words found’.

  8. Re 9A – I read as “thousand” with “L”, “I”. Just so happens “and” is there.

  9. Arthur C 11D is a neologism from 2009. In wordplay, “fraud” gives letters 5-8, and balance is from “Criminal” as anagrind for anagrist “so nimble”. Definition stuff-up could apply to 5-11, with 1-4 as a magnifying qualifier. Hope that helps!

  10. Enjoying today’s so far. Good to see the mighty Frank make an appearance. I thought ivory came from elephants, whereas 13A has a different provenance. 18A was fun.

  11. All done. Hadn’t come across 6A before, but it is, apparently, a word.

  12. Dave R back in my uni days, in 1973, working on uni publications, a small group of us interviewed the mighty Frank in his Commodore Hotel room: we were there around 2½ hours, he was so accommodating! Wish we’d had the presence of mind to get a group shot!

  13. Got on to say the same as you, Ray, on the shortened words – 7 by my count.
    I liked the misdirectioned clues. Agree with you on 18A, Gayle and Dave.
    What was your concern with 16A, Gayle? (the answer and the clue’s first (3-letter) word have a same definition. Just saying! :-)).
    Dave, the answer to 13A refers to work by those who are 6A on any article, including the clued type, not just (as I (too?) once thought) an article from 6A creature of the BIG type!
    Can someone explain how letters 6, 7, 8 in 21A arise? 1, 2, 3 and 9 are clear and I presume 4 and 5 come from computing.

  14. Johnno, 21A letters 6-8 are from “buff from the east”. Think of buff as a verb.

  15. Thanks, Mort but I’m still not catching on. However, you might need to wait a while to give it to me more obviously!

  16. johnno2 21A Definition words 1-2; “game” letters 1-3,9; “to detain” inclusion indicator; “computing” letters 4-5; “buff” (“from the east”) letters 8,7,6.

  17. I have all answers except for 6A. Damned if I can think of a word which fits the clue, despite the hints above relating it to 13A.
    Any more hints ?

  18. We too are stuck on 6A. Mjh, probably 19D would be a good one to start. Anagram of ruin inside ‘boy’ going up, meaning Daily.

  19. Back after being out for more than four hours. Celia @ 0733! Thank you, I had never come across that one before. So, with that, all finished.

  20. My last one in was 1A and I’m still laughing about it. I was fooled by the small “t;” what a classic DA clue

    I haven’t heard much about him in recent years

  21. Thanks Handm
    That was very helpful
    I’m up to nine answers: went to Manly for a swim in beautiful warm surf, must have water on the brain

  22. I was also stuck for a long time on 6a. I think I now have it, but it doesn’t help that when I try to google my answer I get a lot about a marketing company in Utah! I think DA is waxing a bit poetical this week – see also his 21d in the Quick.

  23. 6A: “A” gives letter 1. “bum, almost” gives a 4 letter word, with last letter removed for 2,3,4.

    Defn = “out of port”.

    And answer is:

    adjective, adverb
    to or toward the sea; seaward.

  24. Got it in one sitting, a first. Was not sure if the second word in 6A is bum or burn but both work (seat/sear)!

  25. Fighting a cold; had a wibble (vertigo, ear infection) then a four hour nap. Managed most of top half and a few sprinkled around the lower half. I found today I could solve half a clue and not the rest. Others like 13A (although not sure about how last 4 letters are solved if it’s a homophone), 7D, 23D just leaped out for me.

    Hints for 15D and 25A should get me back in the game, please.

  26. CC 15D definition is first word (although in a very loose way – see Gayle’s comment above). Released gives letters 1-4. Clean fluid gives the balance; one word acts as an anagram indicator.

    25A definition is “cut in”, made up of a season and a word for “inclined” missing their openers.

  27. CC re 13A the last four letters are (in DA’s world) meant to sound like a word for “safe”. I don’t consider the answer and the clue to sound the same. The answer to me is the name of an English actor, Gently speaking and there is no “R” sound in it. The homonym for “safe” however, has a definite “R sound in it.

  28. Very successful for me. Only missing three: 11D, 20D and 18A. Any hints would be greatly appreciated. ( I have looked at the hints for 11D above but they didn’t help me.)

  29. Arthur at 7.08 you said “All in bar 11D. Can’t find a word that agrees with my cross letters, which include H, I, L, M, M, S. Is one of those wrong? My Wordfinder says ‘No words found’.”
    My wordfinder came up with one for the letters I had ??N?SHAM?L?S: tonishamills. Had never heard of that word – googled it and, maybe, in some countries she would be a criminal!

  30. Sally and Geoff, I have trouble accepting that 11D is a real word. I think that the first four letters are Latin for “all”. The balance is a tourist place in York. Sorry but I don’t use a “wordfinder” so I may be wrong but Celia thinks it’s a word coined by Ed Milliband so we may all find that’s it an “utter mess”.

    Geoff, 20D is a place in Australia named after an Aboriginal spear. Romance = 1-3; period = 4-6; A = A. It’s a real blast (or bomb) of a clue.

    18A “Brought up the rear” is the definition as something that Billy Ray’s daughter did. I think that “gunwales” means the outside letters of “rowlock”. These two letters are inside a northern river. There is one between Northumberland and Scotland, and another between NSW an Queensland.

    “Don’t tell my heart, my achy breaky heart” …

  31. Let me correct my comments on 20D: Romance does = 1-3. Period is 5-7. Maiden is the bit in middle. The answer is still an Australian aboriginal spear, unless it’s been blown up in the meantime.

  32. Mort, nice to see you back. I thought that you’d given it up since Celia took over this forum. She really is a dominatrix isn’t she?

  33. Thanks Mort. I now have all answers though, like you, I have trouble thinking of 11D across as an actual word, and I’d never heard of 18A. I should have got 20D but the tone of the clue had me thinking of a different sort of “fling”.
    By the way I’ve just reread your hint for 13A and am belatedly very amused by your ‘Gently speaking’ remark!

  34. Further thoughts on 11d, which seems to have flummoxed many. It appeared memorably in a speech by Peter Capaldi in the UK TV series ‘The thick of it’, together with a lot of language which would deeply shock most of his Dr Who fans!

  35. Thanks Mort! I got a few more out with your help. Last few are 21A, 20D and I can’t parse 17D but peeked at paper for answers. I don’t think I’d have gotten those other two. Thanks for all the discussion above for 11D, I couldn’t figure out the “fraud” thinking it was a person.

  36. CC, if you’re still around… 17D: Salt = S; worker = hand; long run = mile. So put salt and worker IN the long run.

  37. Thank you, Celia (yesterday). One of DA’s less common reversal indicators, that I do now remember from other puzzles. I’ll probably forget again by the next time he uses it!

  38. Hmm, being very pedantic here, but I think there might be a problem with the answer to 20A? IF I’ve got my answer correct, I have S as the last letter. But there is no S in the Hawaiian language? I think the word referred to here is both singular and plural?

  39. @Mort, 1 Apr 2016 at 6:38 pm: in my part of the world (Melbourne, Australia), the last 4 letters of 13A (a playwright’s name) and a word for “safe” are 100% homophones.

    Note that the OED offers two pronunciations as standard for “British & World English”: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sure

    Australians (I believe) tend to use the first (/ʃɔː/), rather than your preference (/ʃʊə/).

  40. MF, I too live in Melbourne so maybe I’ll ask my tennis partners tomorrow how they pronounce sure and shaw. Being brought up in England with what is often referred to as a “classical education”, I only know that I recognize the difference. It’s the same as some people say KILL – OMM-ETTA instead of kilo-meet-er. It doesn’t make it correct, just an incorrect pronunciation in common use.

    Just as those who say Pry-vassy instead of PRI-vassy for privacy: common usage, but incorrect.

    Don’t get me started on people who use “enormity” as a measure of largeness. Or those who think that “begging the question” means “suggesting a question”.

    Sorry, I am a pedant, I know. I just bemoan what is happening to a beautiful language; hence my distaste at words like “omnishambles”.

  41. Mort, while you may be correct with respect to “privacy”, I think your example undermines your case. Allow me to point out that where the OED only allows for one “correct” pronunciation for “privacy” (see http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/privacy ), it explicitly allows *two* pronunciations of “sure”. Take a look at your copy of the OED, or follow the link to “sure” at the OED online: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/sure
    As a pedant, I respect pedantry, but here I think you are simply wrong; no disrespect intended.

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