DA Confusion for the 3rd of July, 2015

Have your confusions sorted out for this week’s DA.

82 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 3rd of July, 2015

  1. Looks like a walk in the park today, judging by NW corner. Loved 2 down, which I think would be dead easy for some. ditto 3 down even though “atmospheric pressure does the work” (Julius Sumner Miller), Mr Astle!

  2. CF – agree. think one of DA’s milder offerings today.
    No real good ones for me today – though as CF stated 2D was good.
    13D, 15D and 18A all a little too convoluted for me.

  3. Finished before 7 am – had 24 clues solved on paper from online replica before paper delivered! Cheers, all, I have a busy day!

  4. The old man is very weary this morning,but NW corner was easy, except 10A. Is this a brand of whisky? Have never imbibed.

  5. I agree with you early birds: a rather gentle offering.

    Ray, I agree re 13D – one of those clues that you had to solve before parsing. I’d put 14D in the same category.

  6. Arthur C. – 10A – yes a brand. I don’t know, I believe pretty top shelve and is a favourite of my father-in-law.

  7. Arthur, yes 10A is a brand of whisky; coldly royal, you may say. It’s a pretty simple anagram.

  8. 17D – Defn = “Opener”. “buzz” gives 4 letter word for letters 1,2,3,4. “offside shot” gives 4 letter word for letters 5,6,7,8.
    24D – Defn = “Daggy”. “backflip” = reverse indicator. “foxtrot” gives letter 4. “cooler” gives 3 letter word for letters 3,2,1.

  9. Ta Ray and Mort. I had heard that name, had to Google to get spellin.

  10. Ray – Re 17d – if I have the correct answer, letters 5,6,7,8 is always “onside”

  11. Yes – thought the same thing – but the shot is from the offside and goes to on.

  12. Must have been an easy one today. Like Celia Fate, it took me a while to get 12A and 20D. I assume I have 17D from the definition, but I don’t like sports references. I did like 13D.

  13. All but 23D, and 24D, I think). Re 13D where the answer seemed obvious, I remain teetotal, but when i take the grog out, can’t explain the remainder. Oh yes, a Holden model after a sign and a wheel! altogether too clever, is DA. Too many answers I have right, but no idea why. Will leave those two for further consideration, almost time to put the pressure cooker on for 100 lunch.

  14. HD and Mum, 19A definition is last four words of clue. Boxer is the usual one in crosswords giving letter 1-3. “Thumped on face” gives letter 4.

  15. Any Trippers in the Central West? DA is coming to the Orange library: 17th of June.
    4d was cute!

  16. Arthur, 23d def is coffee.24d, see Ray at 8.34. I think its used more in UK.
    Need1d and 11a please.

  17. mesgy 1D definition is “duck” – nothing to do with birds.
    11A definition is “supported”. Seeing the future gives letter 1-3.

  18. I’ve had a good morning with the puzzle. Stuck up in NE corner but will take a lunch break, enjoy the lovely sunshine for a bit and come back at it later. Hints for 6A, 8D and 20D would be appreciated.

  19. CC, 6A definition is “leave” as in an order.
    8D definition is “lumbering”. It’s an anagram of the reduced two words before this.
    20A definition is last two words. “Mere” does not mean only; it’s an old English word that means the same as the last word of the answer.

  20. You guys always make me feel so dumb! Could anyone help with parsing 15D. Even a definition may help.

    Thanks in advance.

  21. 15D – Defn = “Joined”. “firm” gives letters 1,2. “beers” gives letters 3,4,5,6. “cold” gives 4 letter word, with “I shrugged” to give letters 7,8,9.

  22. Almost finished. I obviously have the right answer for 6a, but the word play eludes me. Despite Mort’s hint at 10.57 am, I can’t work out 19a, and I can only think of two words which fit the cross letters of 20d, neither of which matches either part of what I assume is the double definition. The second part of 17d would never be described as an “offside shot”; Ray’s attempt at justification seems a bit far-fetched.

  23. 6A – Defn = “Leave”. “cocktailing” gives 10 letter synonym – which is “half-done” for letters 1,2,3,4,5.

  24. And Dave – yeah – the more I think of it I guess DA just got it backwards for 17D.

  25. Dave re 6A, I read it as a work for cocktailing, usually relating to eggs, that is half-finished.

    19A is more common as a longer word, as in a bird XXXX on a tree. The boxer changed his name to letters 1-3 from Cassius…

  26. An easy one today. I always thought DA was a cricket fan, but no cricket fan would make that mistake. And the Ashes start next week too!

  27. Good afternoon

    Have swung by for help on occasion and am very grateful

    Wasted more time than I care to admit thinking about Philip Roth and Tim Winton novels

  28. All complete, after lunch and nap. I eventually remembered the word at 24D, and saw 23D. Ta megse.

  29. I believe I have now solved it.

    re 20D for Crypticrochet and Dave R, answer is a word for considers that sounds like a word for tracks. My initial confusion was caused by having the incorrect ending to 25A

  30. Thanks, Ray and Mort for your ideas on 6a. I drink my cocktails and eat my eggs and rately are they of the same consistency. When I am offered cocktailed eggs for breakfast in a restaurant, then I’ll accept the clue. Still thinking about 20d but, even with the other possibility for the last three letters of 25a, and understanding the homophone indicator, still drawing a blank. Shall go to the shops and come back to it later.

  31. Thanks Mort and Brendan – I had the same for 25A so I get 2oD now. All out now. Just need to finish parsing a few. Thanks for explaining the second word in 22A Mort, I did wonder about that. 9A took me a long time because that has different names in different countries. I called it “Ghouls” as a kid.

  32. Hi folks. It is much easier today. But I am still lost with 19a. The only boxer I can think of would mean the answer was ‘on fire’ rather than down to earth.
    Not sure what you mean re 9a Cryptocrochet. Are you sure it is 9a you mean?

  33. Am I the only one to wonder about the third letter of 2d, since the clue has a mixture of past and present – so which is it for the answer?

  34. Still not sure what you mean Cryptocrochet. What does it have to do with tag?

  35. Dom 12a had me for a while too. Cultivated is 1,2,5,6. Disease is ‘within’ in 3&4. Means a growth area. Not necessarily for crops, could be ideas.

  36. No, Dom, you’re not the only one – it eludes me too! (Also my last one)

  37. Sandy, thanks, that did it. I had actually already considered that word but was fixated on the def being 1st word. Ignored my mum’s sage advice: “if you can’t solve the clue, read it differently”

  38. I am struggling with 18a, and still can’t get 19a. Any help out there?

  39. Sandy
    defn = lover
    trouble follows = letters 8,9,10
    a = letter 1
    heartless lie = letters 2,3,4,5,6,7 are a lie missing the middle letter – the lie is sometimes known as a work of …….

  40. Sandy, 18a – definition is last word. 234567 is a 7-letter word for ‘lie’ with middle letter removed. 8910 is ‘trouble’.
    19a definition last four words, 123 boxer

  41. 19a
    boxer = 3 letter name for probably most famous pugilist ever, now an old man in poor health
    thumped on face = letter 4

  42. 19a. That is what I had Dom. But the meaning is ‘on fore’ rather than ‘down to earth’. What have I got wrong?

  43. Now I get it. CAME down to earth, as in from a plane. Weird past tense.

  44. I’ve just realised I posted gobbledegook earlier about 2d, burbling on about the 3rd letter. I actually meant the 4th letter, which has 2 possibilities depending on whether it’s past or present. Since I read the clue as a sort of double, definition, one part of which is past and the other present, I’m still not sure which letter DA intended it to be. Any thoughts?

  45. In fact, wouldn’t the clue be better without ‘to do this’ altogether?

  46. Mary, I read 2d as past tense, ie the sack was given to someone in order to do something.

  47. Yes, it was the past tense I filled in – I just got left with an uncomfortable sense that the grammar of the clue was out of whack, which is not like DA usually.

  48. Hi all, if anyone’s still around would it be possible for someone to send me a screenshot/photo of today’s cryptic? The digital edition of The Age is playing up for me so I can’t get my fix…

  49. Hi, I’m an occasional lurker. This morning my mother and I were dismayed to find that SA Libraries has ended its subscription to PressDisplay, and hence we can no longer access the DA.

    I have just subscribed to The Age purely for the crossword, and it doesn’t seem to be working. Could someone send me a copy at dennis@dennisgrauel.com?

    Cheers, Dennis

  50. Dennis, like you I only subscribe for the daily cryptic. As you point out, the Age website is not displaying the digital edition; instead pointing us to the subscription page. This is the second time in two weeks that this has happened. Luckily my copy this morning is still in my clipboard, so I’ve sent you a PDF of it.


  51. All done. Thanks Mort for 11A wordplay (I’d overlooked ‘seeing the future’ and was looking for ‘ex’ plus another ‘old’ to make ‘supported’). Thanks Sandy for 12A, Dom for 18 and 19A, and Arthur for 13D. Thanks Google and thesaurus for a few, as usual. Enjoyed 29A.

  52. Just 14d and 20d left. Neither helped by not knowing if 25a ends in ‘ion’ ,or ‘ors’. which , please? Thanks.

  53. Julie, it’s neither, it’s ‘ing’! That should help with 20d. 14d definition is first word. letters 123 are ‘yield’, rest is an anagram of ‘desire’ around bottom of ‘model’

  54. Thank you Mary – And I had “send” until I saw your post! So thanks twice.

  55. Got them at last! I really needed that ‘ing’ clue. Thanks -I can sleep now.

  56. Pretty straightforward one today. If you’re stumped with 17d, replace offside with onside or leg side. A rare error from DA.

  57. Barry I’m the same and regarding your subscription; when I get that problem, and it’s not fixed by closing down the browser and restarting, I will complain to the newspaper online in it’s “contact us” chatbox and have had the day’s paper refunded to me. It’s only fair. If I have to go and buy the paper from the newsagent then I’ve paid for it twice at that point. I had a lot of hiccups when I first started my subscription. I hope yours behaves itself soon.

  58. Mary, I imagined that the person who was fired was given a sack to pack up all his stuff into. Thanks for the hints, everyone, but I’m still only half way through this diabolical cryptic! I’m new to DA. thanks also to the orderly at the RMH yesterday (hubby has a dodgy heart), who put me onto this website. You are all so clever!

  59. Yes I’m a day late as I’m working on Fridays for a few weeks. I really miss Friday’s with Ray and cryptic et al, it’s not the same on sat morning
    But thank you all for the assist ance

  60. Yay! Finished at last! Only took me two days. BTW – hubby says a ‘pull shot’ is onside. Tut, tut.

  61. Anne my husband made the same comment, apparently ‘pull shot’ is onside

  62. Hi all, regular visitor, first message.
    I’ve got everything out except 9A – looks like no-one else had trouble on this? Hint please!?
    Anyway, thanks for all the help, you folks are awesome. :)

  63. Andrew 9A RETREAT = DEN. Ends in DisgracE give DE. Naval leader gives N.

  64. Duh…
    Thanks Barry, I feel silly now.
    Looking forward to tomorrow’s DA.

  65. DA – Jul 03, 2015
    Spoiler alert – all wordplays detailed below:

    1A – Defn = “Retraction”. “wrangle” = anagrind. Fodder = “avoids law”.
    6A – Defn = “Leave”. “cocktailing” gives 10 letter synonym – which is “half-done” for letters 1,2,3,4,5.
    9A – Defn = “Retreat”. “ends in disgrace” gives letters 1,2. “naval leader” gives letter 3.
    10A – “Dreadful” = anagrind. Fodder = “liver saga” plus “taps”. Defn = “whisky”.
    11A – Defn = “supported”. “seeing the future” gives letters 1,2,3. “doubly old?” gives letter 4 (and meaning “old” first time) and 4 letter word for letters 5,6,7,8 (and meaning “old” second time).
    12A – “Cultivated” gives a 4 letter word for letters 1,2,5,6. “disease” gives letters 3,4. “within” = container. Defn = “growth area”.
    15A – Defn = “Chanel”. “enterprise” gives letters 1,2 and also 3,4 (“mirrored”).
    16A – “slammed” = anagrind. Fodder = “Roth” for letters 1,2,3,4. “novel” = anagrind. Fodder = “Winton” for letters 5,6,7,8,9,10. Defn = “forced”.
    18A – “Trouble” gives 3 letter word for letters 8,9,10. “follows” = positioner. “a” gives letter 1. “lie” gives 7 letter word, with middle letter removed (“heartless”) for letters 2,3,4,5,6,7. Defn = “lover”.
    19A – “Boxer” gives letters 1,2,3. “thumped on face” gives letter 4. Defn = “came down to earth”.
    21A – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Wage war on”. Defn 2 “book”.
    22A – “Get new” gives letter 1,2,3,4 – as “bases wiped”. “mere” gives 4 letter word for letters 5,6,7,8. Defn = “hereditary source?”.
    25A – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Machiavellian”. Defn 2 “maths”.
    27A – see 5 down.
    28A – Defn = “Peg”. “to succeed” gives 2 word answer (2,4) with last letter removed (“off-ending”) to give 1,2,3,4,5.
    29A – “Female” gives letter 1. “all but staggered” gives 6 letter word for “staggered” with last letter removed for letters 2,3,4,8,9. “describe” = positioner / container. “pen” gives 3 letter word for letters 5,6,7. Defn = “stroke”. 
    1D – Defn = “Duck”. “dunking wings” = letters 3,4. “in” = positioner / container. “works” gives a 4 letter word, with last letter removed (“dock”) for letter 1,2,5.
    2D – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Given the sack”. And defn 2 = what you do if you are “Given the sack to do this?”
    3D – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Nature abhors this”. Defn 2 “sucker”.
    4D – Spoonerism of “conservative boozer”. Defn = “protected species”.
    5D, 27A – Defn = “It takes off”. “Shakespearean” gives letters 1,2,3,4. “black” gives letters 5,6,7.
    6D – Defn = “Uni in Paris”. “or” gives letters 2,3. “another Euro city” gives letters 4,5,6,7. “blocking” = positioner / container. “separate vacation” gives letter 1,8.
    7D – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Semi”. Defn 2 “arrange”.
    8D – “Manoeuvre” = anagrind. Fodder = “tailor-made” with last letter removed (“reduced”). Defn = “lumbering”.
    13D – “Rum” gives letters 1,2,3,4,11. “soaked” = positioner / container. “sign” gives letters 5,6,7. “Holden” gives letters 8,9. “wheel” gives letter 10. Defn = “baby”.
    14D – Defn = “Censor”. “yield” gives letters 1,2,3. “perhaps” = anagrind. Fodder = “desire” for letters 4,6,7,8,9,10. “model’s bottom” gives letter 5. “pinching” = positioner / container.
    15D – Defn = “Joined”. “firm” gives letters 1,2. “beers” gives letters 3,4,5,6. “cold” gives 4 letter word, with “I shrugged” to give letters 7,8,9.
    17D – Defn = “Opener”. “buzz” gives 4 letter word for letters 1,2,3,4. “offside shot” gives 4 letter word for letters 5,6,7,8. (BUT SHOULD IT BE “ONSIDE SHOT”??).
    20D – Defn = “Considers”. “sound” homophone indicator. “tracks” gives 4 letter homophone for the 6 letter answer.
    23D – Defn = “coffee”. “includes” = hidden indicator. Fodder = “Meal at ten”.
    24D – Defn = “Daggy”. “backflip” = reverse indicator. “foxtrot” gives letter 4. “cooler” gives 3 letter word for letters 3,2,1.
    26D – Double defn. Defn 1 = “Despicable”. Defn 2 “blue”.

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