DA Confusion for the New Year (31st December, 2010)

The theme looks full of the recondite.

Methinks this confusion thread will be getting quite the workout.

64 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the New Year (31st December, 2010)

  1. Indeed it will. I grew up surrounded by the theme’s stuff but have not heard of some of these answers! So (and I hate it when I have to do this) I’ve had to google some words to check them. For those who need a theme hint you can visit my family website: http://www.briansnolan.ie Is that hint allowed?!

  2. Very enjoyable crossword this week. Plenty of challenges, but once I had 13d done and the across answers started to flow it came together nicely.

    DA says there are six “rarities” in the across answers. I found seven that I had never heard of and like you Jonathan, resorted to dictionaries and Google for some clarification. Nice web site, by the way.

    Also had trouble with some obscurities in the down clues. Particularly 5d, 7d, 16d and 21d which needed the help of my reference library!

    Will need clarification on the wordplay for a couple – will post in the other thread.

  3. Crikey – anyone who gets 11a or 26a without having to check they are real words probaly needs to get out more!
    Had to download from the smh site as it looks like Melbourne might be dudded again – the dreaded weekend edition, although they might include it in tomorrow’s extra edition?

    Very enjoyable theme – only real quibble is with 5d.
    Got a good laugh from 14a, 23a, 6d, 16d, and 18d.

  4. Ooops! This is “the other thread”!

    Can’t see the wordplay for 2d, and don’t see how “enclosed” works in 19d. Any clarification would be great.

    P.S. For me the best clues of the week were 23a and 6d. Both very clever.

  5. GB – there were 2 crosswords in the age today. DS as usual on a friday in the front section and DA at the back of the Summer Age lift out.

  6. 19d: I think en may be an abbreviation of enclosed (though I can’t find a reference for it). If we allow that, it is en inside (s)kewed*

  7. Thanks for the 2d explanation Jonathan. I was stuck on animal doctors and didn’t see the other meaning of vet. Silly me.

    I saw 19d as: SKEWED first off SKEWED = anagram of KEWED = WEEK..D. But then you need to add EN so either “most” = EN (leaving the literal definition as “break”) or “enclosed” = EN. Neither makes sense to me. Enclosed could be ENC or ENCL but EN is a bit of a stretch.

  8. mrigeoy – I agree with you, seven rarities in my view.

    I agree that 19D is EN in KEWED as it is literally EN closed in it. And it’s DA’s book that taught me to re-read the clues like that! (Yes – an obsessive’s Christmas present).

  9. Yes, 19d is a bit funny. I just assumed ‘enclosed’ = EN, but it’s not very good.

  10. Any hints? I have the top right corner except for 7D, and I also have 2,3, 19,21,24D and 8A

  11. 7D is a TV character – if you have 4D you’ll know it has an X
    All the Across clues are fabrics (so that might help with 13D) but there are seven (I think we all agree!) that are very obscure.

  12. I have all the cross letters for 16D, but I still can’t get it. Any hints?

  13. The easiest of the Across clues are 8A, 10A, 15A, 20A, 22A, 23A, 24A – all recognisable fabrics – but 14A and 17A are guessable from the clues. For 14A the room in a hospital is a ward and for 17A it’s a simple anagram. Hope that helps!

  14. Have guessed 14a, 24a and 4d, but can’t figure out the word play – especially 24a?

  15. Can someone please explain the wordplay in 22D? Still need help with 22A, 18D,16D.

  16. Wordplay for 22D: GRAM lifting (i.e. written upwards – reversed) and IN.
    25A is ‘sealed’ inside the words you have.
    16D is THEM plus purposes.

  17. Thanks Jonathan and Ian – would never have seen that hidden or worked out the Lawrence connection! With spoonerisms, is it more about sound than literally swapping letters? Thanks again!

  18. I loved the theme but a better clue could have been used for 19D. With 3D-4D, DA again brings up the ellipsis issue of whether the next clue should include the last word of the previous clue.
    Any help for 12A or 2D?

  19. Can someone help me with 14A and 15A, please? i saw some help for 14A but couldn’t follow it. I “cotoned ” on to the general theme fairly quickly but some of the word elude me.

  20. @Alec Ihm:
    2D was discussed in earlier comments. An oldie with an s inside is the key.
    12A: the word is in the margins (22D) of the words in the clue.

  21. @Conny:
    14A is a Spoonerism – i.e. switching the sounds from the front of each word (Steak and Kidney for Kate and Sidney for example). So a KIP WARD (sleep room in hospital) is….

    15A: Stout is FAT and the cheese is FETA – does that help?

  22. 22A does total rejected mean, say, ALL in reverse? I’ve got the M to begin but can’t get past that

  23. Oh yes, I get it. Thanks. I really liked 23A and 6D as well. Now 26A has me stumped even though I’ve got N-I-S…

  24. I don’t think any of us have ever heard of the answer to 26A! The first part is an anagram and the last part is the wimp. Could be Spooners SANE NOOK!

  25. Aha! I worked it out myself once i got the wimpy bit!Only 21A and 10A left!

  26. OOps! I just worked out 10A. It was straight forward wasm’t it? So it really is only 12A [ not 21A] left. Thanks for the reply on 26A. Your Spoonerism is a good one!

  27. Have comments about 12A for Alec above. It’s in the margins of the words, and is very like some fabric from Turin!

  28. Oh, I see. Thanks Jonathan. I love the 17A answer. It sounds just the thing to have a good race or dance in!

  29. got them all except 18d now. At first I thought it was chit-chat, but couldn’t fully explain it, but now I’ve finally got 26A it doesn’t fit. Can anyone give me a hint?
    Re 5D I’m (IM) favoured (a PET) I crack (I GO?) not quite happy about crack = go though. Was lucky I got 13 down straight away, quickly followed by 24A and 24D. Worked out it was all about fabrics fairly quickly although was a bit mislead by 13D at first as I thought it would indicate the theme was articles of clothing, but once I had a couple of across words I was on track.

  30. think I have 18d now, understand the nag’s noise but have no idea what the rest of the clue is about.

  31. Understand 18d now, was looking at the wrong meaning of cheek!
    favourites were 14A, 23A and 6d.
    Somewhere in the deep recesses of my mind I think I’ve heard of Nainsook, more than I can say for some of the other fabrics (4 others I’ve never heard of and 2 more that are pretty obscure, makes 7 in all, I wonder which of the 7 DA didn’t list in his 6 rarities??)

  32. nn: re 5D, at first I thought crack = go a bit dodgy too, thinking it was in the sense of “cracking under pressure” but then I figured it was probably in the sense of an attempt or try, as in “having a crack at something”.

  33. Okay… call me reckless…call me a fool… call me a grumpy old man… but, really – any crossword that requires you to Google potential answers half a dozen times is stretching the friendship just a tad (in my not-so-humble opinion!!). Fair enough we were told there were rarities, but I reckon this DA crossed that fine line. Having said that, I got a good chuckle out of 23A and enjoyed 6D. Also, I thought 14A was what Elmer Fudd pulled to open his parchute! :) Ahhh there… I feel better now! :) Happy new year to all (even DA!) :)

  34. The first time I have got the puzzle out without visiting all you brilliant trippers. You need to be female and 87, mad about textiles as weel as cryptics and it all makes sense!

  35. All right JC – you’re a reckless, foolish, grumpy old man. Welcome to the club!
    I heard that 30% of Americans think that Obama is a 22a.

  36. I take back being ‘mad about textiles’ in the context of this puzzle, not the age. I wore or sewed with winceyette, nainsook and muslin etc. and have checked that all these, except whipcord are in Chambers’ Dictionary

  37. My favourite dictionary/thesaurus application is WordWeb. It has a large lexical database, runs offline, and has both free and paid versions for desktop or iPhone. I believe it was developed by an Australian. It also let’s you explore semantic relationships between words, beyond just synonyms and antonyms.

  38. Only just found this site…..ironic, as this week I actually completed DA’s cryptic crossword for the first time ever, so don’t need help! (Ruth B I’m female, not 87, but remember wearing winceyette). Had to resort to the dictionary to find ‘stroud’ though.

  39. It was a good crossword to do while on holiday with the in-laws. My mother-in-law worked out most of the ‘rarities’.

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