Confusion on the 24/25th of September, 2010

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17 thoughts on “Confusion on the 24/25th of September, 2010

  1. 1. What purpose does “attached to revolver” serve in 26A? The clue seems to work OK without it. Is it just that the name of the Greek guy is also a make of hand drill? (Thanks, Google.) If so, the definition part of the clue strikes me as slightly unfair.

    2. I can’t remember ever seeing a single-word answer split into two entries, a la 25D/23A. Seems a bit messy.

  2. 1) the “attached to a revolver” part is part of the definition, an oblique reference to the eventual fate of the greek character, perhaps the impetus for the naming of the drill

    2) i’ve seen it in english crosswords before, but never in the age

    can someone help me out with 2D? i can’t explain the first four letters

  3. Thanks, Flexicon. I had the answer without understanding that part of the wordplay. Got most of it fairly easily except for 21D. Does it relate to the Simpsons?

  4. I thought broad might signify homonym (ie broad accent) & that gali might refer to galley & rowing/stroke! Flexicon’s answer is obviously correct (and much more elegant), thanks.

    Still struggling with 26a but hints above will help.

  5. 26A was my last one too. Very obscure, but gettable from the wordplay (as long as you can identify which part is wordplay and which part is definition!). I found 21D very tough too, not being a Simpsons aficionado – and the wordplay was horrendously difficult.

  6. Thanks again, Flexicon. I googled him, having already assumed the first three letters and knowing the 4th and 6th from the Across answers. Still can’t get the wordplay element of the second syllable, though.

  7. I know, it’s a bit of a stretch… ‘stubborn litter’ is referring to when you get gum stuck under your shoe – I think he could have done better with this clue too, although the ‘under rug’ part is fine.

  8. Can someone explain the explanation at the top?
    Then I might have half a chance…

  9. Don’t worry too much about the explanation. Start the crossword as usual, and you should be able to get a bit of it done. 12 clues have a common element ( a three letter word) missing out of their wordplay. Once you work out what it is, you will be able to fit it into the relevent words and it will all fall into place. 24d is a fairly doable example. A few people struck it lucky with 13 D. 29 A might come easily.
    If all else fails, the solution will be available tomorrow…..

  10. Finally got 26a! I had the wordplay worked out but for some reason that particular US president never entered my mind. Had to check Google to confirm the definition & to learn a bit more classical mythology. Overall easier than many themed DA crosswords but I do love working out the theme & applying it to the relevant clues. Who would have thought so many names & words would have Freudian inclusions. Agree with AG that 25d/23a is irregular & inelegant (not the clue itself but the breaking of one word into two).

  11. I read somewhere once that this splitting of a one-word answer across two clues is more “acceptable” if both constituent parts are genuine words (as in this case).

    Re Joe’s query above, JK’s advice is sound. In this type of crossword (with special instructions), sometimes the instructions don’t make much sense until you’ve solved a few clues and then it all starts to make sense. I think the wording of the instructions could have been a bit clearer.

  12. Re breaking of one word into two: commonly done in the UK, especially in the Guardian, and especially by the great Araucaria. As long as each fragment is a word in itself, it’s fine. In fact, knowing that the eight-letter answer can break into two four-letter words is often a valuable hint.

    Re stubborn litter: as one who spent ten minutes yesterday trying to remove chewie from the sole of my shoe after a visit to the show, I think it’s a perfect definition.

  13. A late start for me – I haven’t quite figured out the wordplay in 6D or 14A (I’m not too good at cockney ;)

    And does 16D require a knowledge of Catch-22?

  14. Re 6D, wordplay is a bit tricky. Re 14A, “Cockney” means just drop the “h”. Re 16D, I don’t think so; I justified it without recourse to Catch-22.

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