I’m Confused About DA’s Last in Jan, 2010

Conundrums to be spoken of here, so go beserk and expect some spoilers should you unveil the comments.

Update: Here are a few of my queries and conundrums that haven’t been addressed in the comments already:

1 down: Research centre plug plugging 28-across (darling) clothing 11-across (at sea) (3, 6)
Umm, huh?

3 down: Stalks onstage, it’s said? (7)

4 down: I crack baseball side, well trimmed for online photo (9)
The direct definition seems very wrong indeed to me. Anyone willing to defend it?

37 thoughts on “I’m Confused About DA’s Last in Jan, 2010

  1. That’s my last remaining clue to be answered. I can only come up with one word that fits – a French one – that defies the rest of the clue even when I try to mispronounce it. Am I on the wrong track?

  2. Sounds like the three of us have the same answer.

    My last remaining clue is 3D. I have a word that fits, but i’m stuck explaining the cryptic element

  3. Ah, Mic, try looking up the word you’re thinking of for 3D with ‘stage’ on google or wictionary – that should give you the cryptic part….

  4. 9A is OK to me. Macquarie gives both the French and the anglicized pronunciations, and Chambers (surprisingly) only the anglicized one. Your average adult who didn’t do French at school is likely to pronounce it to rhyme with “due” … and that’s the clue to the explanation for Smiley.

    Now, can someone explain to me for 22A how OM or MO = flash?

    Two complaints: the definition parts for 6D and 7D are poor. Especially 6D, which confuses a transitive verb and an intransitive verb that have associated, but quite different, meanings.

  5. 29A: Think epileptic carrying something from the Middle East. Had to consult the dictionary to confirm the meaning of a word, though.

    21D: I don’t really get it, but once 29A is inked in, the cross clues should help.

  6. 21D is cool: vaults = ATRIA hoisted gives AIRTA….by one = X 1 gives AIRTAXI = charter plane….I like it.

  7. Agree with Ian and Smiley on 9A. Took me ages to get this (horrible) homophone. Anyone who did a bit of French at school is surely penalised. (I’m not looking forward to any DA homophones for “lingerie”!)

    6D: I’m with AG on this – exhaust (trans) and flag (intrans) are poor synonyms. (You “flag” if something “exhausts” you).

    7D: AG, “adumbrate” can mean “foreshadow”, so this is close enough to “herald” for me.

  8. RB: I may have to eat my hat on 9a. Chambers does indeed list the pronunciation as a-dū, which gives a dew. Hoist on my own proverbial, I’m afraid!

  9. I always thought an atrium was a large open courtyard or central area of a building – while a vault has a sense of something hidden or underground … but happy to be convinced otherwise. I didn’t have issues with 9A – I think the Anglicised usage is reasonably acceptable.

  10. haiku: Your longheld thoughts about atria are correct. vaults on the otherhand are just arched structures

  11. i guess i’ve heard phrases like “I’m afraid i must bid you a-joo” etc, around the traps
    on the other hand, “a-joo” on its own sounds a bit jokey, like saying “or reservoir”

  12. !d; Research centre is EA, plug is jACK, darling is PET, and a pea jacket is worn at sea.
    3d: Rhubarb is what you get everyone on stage to say to simulate crowd noise
    4d: Megapixel is a word strongly associated with digital photography. However, it refers to file size,not the picture itself. A bit dodgy, but it didn’t slow me down

  13. Forgot to include MEGAPIXEL on my short list of poor definitions. A dud IMO.

    I’m the reverse of Oster: knew sere, not UZI. Ah, DA, you educate us all every week.

  14. re 4D: I = ME crack = GAP baseball side = IX (nine players per side) well “trimmed” =EL (edges off) gives MEGAPIXEL. Once again a bit of a clunker in my book.

  15. Photo = a megapixel is kind of like house = two-storey
    saying a photo is one megapixel is a property of the image not the file size (albeit the property of the image which determines the file size)
    i don’t love it, but this clue is fine to me

  16. Another clunky one in my book was 15D. It hasn’t been mentioned yet, so maybe it’s just me. I have:
    “Meet” = RUN ACROSS
    “single” = RUN
    “clue – not this type” = ACROSS…………..This is the bit I find clunky

    I would argue that “across” is a clue type, not a clue per se as the wording of this clue seems to be suggesting. A suitable def for ACROSS would be “not this clue type”, but I suppose this would have marred the surface reading.

  17. Seriously, “Runner jogging dry enough” ??? Was the wordplay really good enough to justify such a dull expression with minimal surface reading. Off the top of my head “Hungry doe trampled runner”…

  18. 8D: Look at last letter of Barnum, + guide or AIDE climbing, and you get a ‘type’ of circus
    28A: large = L and dashing = DARING

  19. Well this was a useful website to find! Thanks folks – I’ve now completed my first DA…. with help.

    I actually knew both SERE and UZI (one of the few clues I worked out for myself before going online), but I never heard of a Pea Jacket, or the definitions of Adumbrate or Simpatico, which slows things down….

    And while I cringe at ADIEU meant to sound like AUDIO, at least I now understand the logic behind everything, except 5D.

    Can someone please explain the cryptic component to 5D?

  20. 5D: “Do they live for cold ones?”

    If you “live” you “be”, which means those who live are “be-ers. The “?” says it’s a pun, not to be taken literally. (Or in code “Gets DA out of jail.”)

    BEERS (VB, Crownies, XXXX, etc) are colloquially “cold ones”.

  21. mic, you are too kind to DA with megapixel’, 1., I don’t reckon anyone has ever referred to a photo as a megapixel, and 2., most online photos are considerably smaller than a megapixel.
    NS had another definition for ‘adumbrate’ (7D) in Thursday’s crossword, which I prefer: “Foreshadow a stupid charge per unit”.
    Can we have a definitive answer for 9A, rather than just hints, please?

  22. JG, 9A goes like this:
    Cheers = ADIEU
    article = A
    fitting = due
    And it seems the anglicised pronunciation (that’s the “in ear” bit) of ADIEU is “a due”

  23. Thanks RB, I thought it might be that but I regarded “fitting = due” as very suss. I don’t have a problem with the sound, but then I was brought up on songs like “There is a tavern in the town”:
    Adieu, adieu, kind friends adieu, adieu, adieu,
    I can no longer stay with you, stay with you,

  24. JG, at first, I was a bit doubtful too about “fitting=due” but I think we’ve had it (or something similar) before; and I’ve found support in a couple of dictionaries (due=proper, appropriate, fitting)

  25. Ah, but in The Sound of Music, in the song So Long, Farewell, they sing:
    “Adieu, adieu, to yer and yer and yer.”

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