DA Confusion for the 14th of May, 2021

No need to be confused. Have your confusions sorted out for this week’s DA.

36 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 14th of May, 2021

  1. FOI – 26A.
    LOI – 1A.
    My pick for best was 9D.
    And 6D / 16D were pretty good.
    Tough wordplay ones (I thought) were 11A and 2D.
    Still to finalise wordplay for 4D and 15D.

  2. FOI 19D, 24A,18A
    LOI 8D.
    Enjoyed the 12A and 17D (when I got it).
    Had a bit of trouble with working out which end was what in 17A in the beginning. Still think the grammar could have lead to a different conclusion. Maybe that’s why the ‘?’

  3. Morning All,

    An enjoyable endeavour today. The lower half came more easily for me; the top half was slower. Easy starters 22d (my first in), 26a, 19d. Yes, Gayle, 17a is ambiguous as to whether the definition is at the start or end. Is 16d a classic misdirection? My initial answer turned out to be our local version of the American, but I’m sure the wordplay works for both. (If nobody knows what I’m rambling about, I’ll clarify later.)

    Many smiles today, and no real groans, although I thought the wordplay for 25a was a bit convoluted. The wordplay for 21a and 2d still to hit me.

  4. First run through 1a,26a,5d,15d,19d. LOI 8d. Still convincing myself of a couple of wordplays. I wonder whether “squadron” should be “service in 2d.
    It was certainly 6d.

  5. I had an answer starting with ‘p’ for 22d, which fitted the wordplay. This caused all sorts of problems.

  6. I’m only eight answers in and I’m thoroughly enjoying today’s puzzle!

  7. I think there are a few roughies today, e.g. 14A (I don’t think part of a range can be construed as the full range), 18A (does that really define our kind), 21A ( there is no homophone indicator for the force unit), 25A (the wordplay is clumsy), 9D ( no real definition).

  8. Graham M, 2d… British squadron is 2-4 (my complaint is that squadron is a component part of this), “quite chuffed about” is 5-7 and sailor flanking these gives battle.

  9. Thanks, Tim. I’d worked most of it out, all but 5-7. So “quite” now means “truncated”, does it?

    I concur with most of your grumbles, Jack.

  10. Jack, re 21A: (13-15) is a less common way of spelling the force in question. I can’t respond to your other reservations because I have none of those words yet! Finding it slow going today.

  11. Yes Graham, it seems so. From memory he’s used “quite” before as a truncation indicator. “Somewhat” is one of the definitions of “quite”, but it’s a strange word given that it can mean both “completely” or “fully” as well as “not completely” depending on the context I guess.

    Apart from 2d, I also wondered about “hurt” in 18a and “loophole” (really?) in 11a.

    Does anyone have a convincing explanation for 6d? I sort of get it I think, but I’d be interested in what others think the definition is (or is it &lit)..

  12. More on 16d. I’d never heard of this word — apparently it’s Spanish but commonly used in America, from what I’ve read. But interestingly, the word we more commonly use here fits too — same length, and the wordplay works.

    This is the wordplay for the wrong answer …
    Glamorous 1-4
    Recluse 6-8 (a bit of a stretch, but it’s in a pod)
    Kiwi 5 (nibbles is an inclusion indicator)

    Is all this is a masterful misdirection or am I imagining something that isn’t there?

  13. All done. Some fun ones today.
    FOI 3a
    LOI 8d

    Tim C
    For 6d I’m not sure about “ironic” but it is, obviously, related to the Easybeats song. I agree there seemed to be some clumsy clues but they were, quite, enjoyable.

  14. Graham M, glamorous recluse is 1-4, 8, nibbles is container indicator, and a Kiwi is 5-7.

  15. Jack @2.09. A couple of yours struck a chord with me too during the solve.
    With you on the lack of homophone indicator in 21 A.
    Re 9D I think it’s meant to be an &lit but I would disagree with the definition. It’s not for oldies but youngies, although I could concede that oldies might be happy that youngies go there. Or is it the stereotypical colour of (some) oldies hair? I must admit I was looking for ‘grey’ as the first 4 letter word. Maybe, if I’m really generous about the possible double duty of ‘developing’, I could pay the wordplay. Cryptic, cryptic, definition and possibly @lit.

  16. Gayle,
    For 9d I thought of “oldies” because this was around when I was a kid. You would thing the current “youngsters” would be too “hip” to go there.

  17. Gayle, for 9d I just took the definition as “this” referring to what was developed given that the oldie’s nightclub had failed. The answer is definitely for the younger set.

  18. Lucy, yes,I know. I was espousing a misdirection hypothesis! (In relation to which no one has rushed to support me, so I guess I’m fantasising!)

  19. Ah, Margaret and Tim. Yes. I’ll pay both
    ‘Hip’ is such a 21A, or a or as SK said, maybe a decade earlier, word! The _ _ _ _ generation. :-)

  20. As far as I am concerned,9D is not an &lit. That’s why it bothers me that the definition is “this.” The wordplay (anagram of oldies and ightclub (nightclub failing to open) develops the answer. The answer definitely applies to youngsters, not old codgers like me. Before I found the anagram, I was trying to work on “blue-rinse,” even though I had the last word of the answer.

  21. Me too Jack. Will never do a blue rinse, even though I could qualify. Grey is the new normal.

  22. Gayle,
    Completely agree. I’m into low maintenance.

    I think “this” is correct but some sort of “contrary” indicator might’ve been better.

  23. Gayle and Margaret,
    I’m with you both.
    I have the number and depth of wrinkles below my brow line that would make any use of the old magic silver blue pointless (the fact I used that name would give you an idea).
    I could imagine strangers looking at my hair and asking themselves “why”!
    Have a good week.

  24. I found this hard, partly because of my ignorance of modern slang, idiom and popular culture. 25a seems very clunky. If “in review, share” refers to 4-6 and “lose badly” is 1-3, 7, I think that the “stocks” indicator is the wrong way round. I agree with grumbles about squadron and omitted force homophone.
    11a I have the answer but can’t parse it. Help please.

  25. 11a “loophole”=2 (mmm….) “in time”=3-5 and 1,6,7 = “bulls..t (as in Cow167)

  26. If anyone’s still there, wordplay for 10A, and an explanation of 21A’s 11-15, please.

  27. 10a… bio=profile, remove prof to give 4,5,6. Campus is 1,2,3,7
    21a… 11,12 is “host” (acronym for Master of Ceremonies) and 13-15 is “force unit” as in “the pilot pulled 5g”. See discussion above about whether “gee” is ok for “g” (Chambers definition for ‘gee’ is “the seventh letter of the English alphabet (G or g).”)

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