DA Confusion for the 25th of August, 2017

Have your confusions sorted out while I’m thoroughly confused and jet lagged in Scotland.

Get into it.

76 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 25th of August, 2017

  1. Very typical DA I thought with normal “tricks” eg: 21A and 27A.
    Liked 9D as very clever IMHO.
    Good solving all.

  2. Ray, I liked 9D also, but thought devilishly evil of DA! Having fun with this, with about ⅔ out. You’d be a total goose (albeit a little one) if you fell for the red herring in 12A!

    Happy solving!

  3. Oh joy, Oh bliss. Roughly an hour of looking, one clue solved. 5A, obviously the easiest. Much work to do.

  4. Arthur C, you of all people should have no trouble with 19A and 20D, for starters. Many of today’s need to be approached from the definitions, as their wordplay is somewhat oblique e.g. 9D.
    Try 11A & 23A, they should also help you into the mix!

  5. Well, celia, after making some wild guesses, have filled in NE corner, but can’t understand how my answers fit several clues. If 19A is our old friend ‘head-protector’, how is it clued? At least I have el4even answers, hopefully all correct. I’m starting to get the answers sorted, I’m just a bit slow.

  6. Good fun, lots of tricks. I circled 12 standout clues, and I suspect there may be others, as I’ve fallen short of 2 pair of intersecting clues at 1D/10A and 20D/26A,

  7. Gayle – just as starters if it helps:
    1D – defn first 2 words.
    10A – Sydney.
    20D – defn last word.
    26A – defn first 4 words.

  8. Gayle, 20D answer is trivial, should you inspect the clue carefully! It is “packed”.

  9. Light shining a bit brighter now, saw 20D (was in that country, back in 1952), loved the 28A. Have a definite affiliation with those! Gayle (0707), you should have no problem with 26A, characteristic of ladies of our generation, and designation of areas we inhabited.

  10. Arthur C & Gayle, re 26A, the “land division” is a large one and subject to “audit”, else you might have a problem with the Shakespearean 24D.

  11. Ray, thanks for 1D & 10A hints, have lived vast chunks of my life in 10A (most recently 1988-2009). Have a Broadway PO box that I empty daily, though usually it’s empty anyway!

    Took me ages to parse those two, also 1A wordplay had me stumped from outset until I worked out the old/stone division and where the uni erasure was located.

  12. Thanks all for 20 and 26. Re 26 I figured as Ray said that the def was the first 4 words ( but wearier wouldn’t fit) and I see the spelling is an alternative to the one I’d normally use.
    Arthur, I don’t know that would describe this ‘lady’ of a certain age. :-)

    Had the right bare-headed commoner in 10A but couldn’t figure out the rest. Got it now thanks.
    And 1D ‘quaint’ ? In whose generation?

  13. Arthur C, re 1A, step out the front of your dwelling and what are the pedestrians doing? So what would be an alternative name for one? Too early for wordplay spoiler on this one, but see my immediately previous post.

  14. Finally realised what the ‘temperature variation’ was in 22A. Still twelve to go. 1, 2, 3, 4, 14, 22D, 1, 10, 12, 14, 18, 21A

  15. That’s it for me, all out, all done, all understood. Last out 14A (should’ve got that one 18A earlier). A challenging but fun crossword; more please? Happy solving everyone!

  16. Thanks, Celia, but not helping. Can see no advance at this stage. pored over names of Tracks cast, no heklp here. Enough for now, shopping to do. Look back later. LHS a disaster.

  17. Celia, nave finally seen 4D,18A, Ten left. 12A, still no idea, but clearly not an actor associated with Tracks, looked at all those. No knowledge of Broadway, if it is Sydney shopping centre, for 10A. Must look at Descartes, know the name, but nothing about him. work to do yet.

  18. Arthur C, 12A definition is “actor”, “in’ refers to the wordplay following, the italics are a red herring, a misdirection! “Tracks” gives letters 1-2, “cast” gives letters 7-11. Actor in recent films, a recent one won all the Golden Globes it was nominated for!

    As for Descartes, in 3D he’s reflected into letters 4 3 2 1 while a heartless man is at 5-6.

    Have you checked your mail today?

  19. Gayle (0808), I’d go so far as to say it’s misspelt. I don’t have the Macquarie to hand, but the only subentry in OED online for the sense implied by DA is not that spelling.

  20. We must none of us stop looking until we’ve found our own 12A. :)

    Pretty sure I’ve got 4D, but can’t parse it at all.

  21. Everyone, 10A is probably unfair to non-Sydneysiders. Answer is a Sydney suburb in the “Broadway precinct”. Wordplay is clear, and the suburb’s name is a common noun to be found in any worthwhile dictionary!

  22. AG, Gayle, re 26A, my Australian Concise Oxford gives both “i” and “y” spelling variations

  23. Carol, I’d prefer my own Emma S, thank you very much! Sigh!

    4D defn is 1st four words. Wordplay components are at 1-5, and 9-14, hosting 6-8’s “feast”.

  24. Celia, I spent my uni days in 10A – many an essay written in BM.
    Re 4D, nup, still not getting it. I have the answer anyway, so will move on for now.

  25. Alice, re 2D, defn 1st word, “jackets” is inclusion indicator for “see” (4 letters) going into “fleece” (5 letters).

  26. Carol, split your 4D answer into 1-5, 6-8, 9-14, that should equate with “footballer’s”, “feast”, “club”.

  27. Carol re 5A, the beer (synechdochally), occupies 6 5 4 3, with roughly occupying 1-2.

    Wonder of wonders, by a strange coincidence Felix is lying in it at 1-3.

  28. Stuck on 14A, 21A and 22D. Any hints?

    10A. Very fond memories of the Valhalla Cinema in the early 80s.

  29. Rob B and Indigo, to nudge you towards a complete SW corner …
    21A definition is “extreme”, a vowel-less word usually followed by “degree”. What is May? After answering that, remove its two-letter “second” and you have the answer, and the first letter of 22D, which should immediately deliver you 22D’s “feller”!

  30. Rob B and Indigo again … re 14A … remove N (“out north”) from a 5-letter word for “cocktail”, result is a 4-letter word for “drained” (e.g. “the vampires xxxx him dry”).

    Rob B, you didn’t happen to see 3D Blood For Dracula at the V? Or ditto Flesh For Frankenstein?

  31. I remember the Valhalla well. Perhaps the clues for 9D and 10A were meant to be linked, and are a fond memory for DA as well? Didn’t he meet his wife somewhere around there?

    Carol, I’m wondering what pub in the Broadway precinct starts with BM?

  32. @Celia. Ta. All out. Valhalla. I was more of a Space Odyssey, Akira Kurosawa, and Allegro non Troppo kinda guy (got my Hammer movies at high school). Also endured Warhol, John Waters and Eraserhead movies – required rite of passage viewing in those days. Supposed to stretch you, but I found them more wretch than stretch.

  33. Rob B, I saw the David Lynch Art Life doco at recent American Classics at Palace, but avoided Eraserhead screening therein like the plague. There was a screening there too of Barfly (paired with a telling Bukowski doco) but I would have much preferred it to have been Tales of Ordinary Madness, which I first saw at Valhalla when it was released. Italian director meant not an American classic, but at least it did star Ben Gazarra as Bukowski’s alter ego, Henry Chinaski (?). Was with a mirthful group who’d been indulging in mood altering drugs (alcohol mostly) so it was a total hoot! But Mickey Rourke as Henry was fine, paired with a codependent alcoholic played by Faye Dunaway!

  34. Celia. Valhalla means mood altering drugs. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Have a good weekend.

  35. Gayle, “BM” would be venerable coffee shop-eatery Badde Manors, founded by the late Judy Backhouse and others decades ago 1980s it earlier and the launching pad for a cappella The Cafe of the Gate of Salvation (CotGoS for short), led by her husband Tony.

  36. Oh, know the CotGoS. My time was 70’s. Couldn’t write essays in pubs, then or now, with or without laptops.

  37. 1 answer last week , 1 this week, really struggling with DA at present, and as much as I come here to pick up a few clues I find some of the help here more cryptic……..sigh maybe I need to find another hobby on a Friday.

  38. A particularly satisfying one this week, I thought. Given that I’ve been doing it on my lunch break in Paris cafe, I’m a little ashamed by how slow I was to get 28A. I thought 10A was easy enough to get by wordplay, even for this Melbournian exile.

  39. And hang in there, Terry! There are always rough spells (when you feel 25A) from time to time, but it’s bound to break eventually. Don’t be afraid to come here and ask for more specific help, either.

  40. The Valhalla ! I haven’t thought about that place in years. Many good times there – although I do remember walking out of Eraserhead.

    That world has gone… although Badde Manors is still there. I remember the first time I really felt old was when I looked at all the waiters and realised I’d been eating there since before they were all born.

  41. I have all out, with lots of help from here, except 7d and 13a. I know a word meaning ‘seen’ that fits 7d, but can’t make that fit the clue. And do I need some Italian for 13a?

  42. Jillian 8d: Gun is letters 1-5, ‘Nickel possibly cored[ is 6-9. 19a is a double definition. The old chancellor is pretty well known. I had never heard of the pulverised antimony.

  43. Ok. looked up the Italian. So got 13a. And it must be what I had thought for 7d. But I still can’t see how.

  44. Thanks Sandy. … 7D definition is the first word. …wordplay -think of what makes up a musical score

  45. Thanks for all the hints this week. All out but I need to know – what is the word play for 9d ? Definition clearly “seems impossible”….but Val? Too oblique for my solving skills. Fear my week will be highly unproductive if i dont find out. Celia? Ray? Help please!

  46. CroydonMAL. V = versus. A and I are not the even letters of the second word to the answer.

  47. Monday is D’oh!day:
    1A – wordplay, please
    1D – ditto
    19A – who is the “pretty well known” (Sandy 3.18 Saturday) old chancellor?
    16D – got all the across letters but none of my cheatsources provide me an answer; so, HELP!

  48. johnno2:

    1A old letters 1-5
    stone a 4 letter gem remove uni to give letters 6-8

    1D the (alleged) music at letters 5,2,1, say at 4,3.

  49. johnno2

    19A not Merkel, one of her predecessors, first name sounds like a bikie’s.

    16D lists (anagrind), most waiting (anagrist … with as dismissed), defn cheating (in a carnal sense).

  50. If you’re still there, Celia (or anyone), thank you!
    Re 19A, OK, but what, then, is the wordplay? The only word I could find ending in L that related to antimony was OPAL (and hence my problem with 16D!)
    Not really happy with “lists” as an anagrind – it’s too one-directional and even, as in how a ship lists (so more a reversal indicator?) Anagrinds should be more multi-directional, throw-them-in-the-air, haphazard??

  51. 19A is a DD. Google the answer.

    You always seem to want to argue the point, johnno2. I’m not into that. David Astle has a website and a Twitter account, Go there if you’re not happy with his cluing!

  52. Thanks Luke for the reassurance, I ended up getting about half a dozen, looking at Saturday’s solution I’m still dumbfounded at how to work out some of the answers , and trust me I’ve been doing Cryptic crosswords for years .1D and 10ac are examples, I’m sure there are logical solution for the answers but i’m still struggling to find out what they are.

  53. Terry, there are at least 13 entries here referencing 10A. Do be a darling and discover your browser’s “find on page” facility!

  54. Terry, re 1D, see my post at 1:18 pm today. Why you need ask a question when the answer posted here? Use your browser’s search facility!!

  55. @Terry. 1D. Defn = Quaint gadget. Revolution is a reversal indicator. Stopped is an inclusion indicator. “Say” (letters 4-3) is included in (a type of) music (5, 2-1)

    10A. Defn = Broadway precinct. Within is an inclusion indicator. Nearly is a truncation indicator for the word “get”, giving letters 1 and 5. Doffed cap is a truncation indicator for “commoner” (of the Roman Empire), giving letters 2-4. The answer is a suburb in Sydney.

    D.A. is a tricky and innovative compiler. I’m still getting used to his style and his mode of thinking. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don’t. Please persevere. If you love cryptics, he is worth the investment.

    CTRL + F will open the search function in your browser.

  56. Thanks Celia and Rob B …I can get on with my day job now….until FriDAy at least!

  57. Celia, I’m sad that my occasional beef – amongst a much greater number of (I hope!) humble requests for help (like my original plea this week) – leads to an impression that I “always” seem to want to argue the point. And also sad you’ve picked me out from the others who just as frequently (occasionally?) do the same. I’m just trying to learn the ‘rules’, including their flexibilities, and this is now partly because I assist in a U3A cryptic crossword class and the others look to me for rules. Occasionally frustration does kick in, so I apologise if that has shown through. Surely we banter on this forum; my ‘beef’ nowhere near warrants challenging DA direct!
    And if you can bear me a little longer, what is a DD? I understand 19A is KOHL but I can’t work out the wordplay.

  58. Johnno2. Kohl. 1. A former chancellor of Germany; 2. A dark eye cosmetic made partly from pulverized antimony, as worn by Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra.

  59. Can anyone please explain the link between 13A and 14A? (I have both answers but can’t see how the two clues are related)

  60. Benadem. I believe the convention is that clues starting and ending with “…” are connected in some way. I also think they can be red herrings, just like other punctuation in clues.

    If there is a connection between these two clues, I cannot see it, so I suspect it is a red herring in this case. Greater minds may disagree.

  61. Thank you, Rob B. I will continue to look for the evasive connection. I just feel DA must have had something devious in mind. :-P

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