DA Confusion for the 15th of November, 2013

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109 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 15th of November, 2013

  1. All done here, Too Easy DA. Now to more important business. Barry what were you thinking with your weird and VERY creepy OVERSHARE statements of last week ??? Here they are again for anyone who missed Barry’s Rant.
    Barry | November 8, 2013 at 8:46 pm |
    True Jimmy, but I can still give pleasure to women,
    which is more than your shrivelled manhood can manage,
    without pumping yourself full of alcohol – or is that drugs talking?

    Now Barry , this is a Crossword forum, people dont want to know about your sexual prowess or lack thereof. And i think you have no idea about your statements of alcohol or drugs. In my experience, alcohol is no good for pleasuring women and drugs , eg. viagra is great for that purpose, so once again Barry you are completely wrong and an embarrassment.
    Keep up your great work.
    PS
    Im still waiting on your explanation of your answer for 4D babow wrong and 6A babow wrong.

  2. Jimmy, don’t take this wrong way but you need help – psychiatric help. “dont” needs an apostrophe . “i” needs a capital, “Viagra” is a trademark and needs a capital.”babow” means heavens knows what. . “Im” needs an apostrophe. “waiting on your explanation” – we wait on platforms; we wait for trains. Jimmy, old chap.
    There is no need to use a sentence with “crossword” with a capital C. Capitals are reserved for names and proper nouns, and you are neither.

    “Barry you are completely wrong and an embarrassment.” Well, Ratty, me old mate, I’ve often been wrong, sometimes embarrassed, but never have I been as off the loop as you are.

    “In my experience, alcohol is no good for pleasuring women” – does that mean you’ve tried to get women drunk and failed?

    “Keep up your great work.” – I shall, me old mate, I shall.

  3. omg Barry , you cant answer any of my questions can you ? , sorry for embarrassing you, actually im not sorry Barry , you are a dickhead

  4. As usual, very slow start, only four in after carefully scanning clues. Anagrams are a marvellous help to get started!

  5. Can we get a moderator over here? Lots of off-topic sledging, very unedifying.

    Ray: 26a is an author, and the spy is letters 4-7. 21a is nautical, 21d is Greek.

  6. Barry, please don’t feed the troll.

    I have the right hand side complete and only 4D done on the left. It’s like two different crosswords in one grid!

  7. I’m stuck on those too Ray.
    Should 21A be past tense?
    ‘Half-heartedly’ revisited this week. Another odd letter word gutted As said last time, I like the indicator but don’t get DA’s drift on removing one letter of a pair if it’s not dead in the middle. What am I missing?

  8. More like an imperative or an adverb, but it doesn’t matter, it helped the parsing of 21A.

  9. Morning Trippers – A quick pop-in to say I will take my lumps on your ‘half-hearted’ flak. That is sloppy twice, with the glitch only being repeated due to a pre-set puzzle. I can hereby vouch that the device will not be 1D again!

    Enjoy today’s grapple, with more intense mayhem scheduled in coming weeks. Cheers,
    DA

  10. Totally lost, not advanced in last three hours. Have only 4, 5, 6D, 10A. A helpful hint for 1A or 1D might save this one from the rubbish bin, I literally have no idea for any of my unsolved clues.

  11. 1A is from an old movie even you may have seen (1937, Walt Disney)

    1D, more disheartened than half-hearted. Kill in a pejorative sense when the victims are human, a technical sense when they’re animals.

  12. Thanks, Rupert, never saw the movie, but was aware of it. First movie I ever saw, ca 1942? was called ‘The Drum’, can’t find reference via Google. Still trying to understand second part of your clue. Will pursue.

  13. Finally saw second part of your clue, Rupert, so have been able to complete NW corner, but do not understand clue on 14A, even though I’m sure my answer is correct. Have 13 now.

  14. Hi Trippers! I’m a longtime lurker, first-time poster-thanks all for the invaluable hints each week. I’ve got today’s out but am not sure of 12a-my answer fits the definition but I don’t understand the wordplay-can anyone shed some light? Thanks!

  15. Not doing well today. Got the NW, but little else, just a few scattered about.

    Is 13D to do with eating steak and bacon? If so, what’s the wordplay?

  16. Hi Tawny, I justified it as surrogate = replace. “Dad essentially” gives you a letter to replace in “baby” with a three letter synonym for strange, answer is a term for a feral animal. Hope this helps.

  17. Hi Indy,

    “joined”synonym gives first seven letters, followed by “regulars” from finest.

  18. 17A? Is that word supposed to be a synonym for feral? Well, for one species only, I suppose. Understand letters 2-4 are strange, but where does surrogate for dad come in?

  19. Indy, I may have wrong word in there, mine is an animal found in great numbers up in the high country, but can be domesticated. But I have two babies with strange in between, still can’t see why my last letter is what it appears to be. Not understanding your clue. Down to last six now, in SW corner. The semi-elite writer is troubling at the moment, needs some work.

  20. I came on to the Trippers today specifically to beef about 1d being a conceptual repeat of last week’s unsound “half-heartening” of “stirrup” to give “stir up”. But lo and behold, I found DA’s mea culpa above, leaving me with nothing to say. So, have a nice day everyone!

  21. Hi Arthur, the word you have for strange IS the surrogate for stripped down dad in the other word that you already have. I hate not being able to see wordplay too! I’m a long time lurker first time poster too Tawny. Mortified that DA looks in on us when we have two squabblers.

  22. 20 I’ll have my usual beef about two words being collapsed into one. Bigpond is an ISP provider and does not have a plant.

    14 I thought the comparative form for the answer was more, not with an “er” ending as in more congenial and most congenial. Correct me if I am wrong.

    1D I, too, had worries about the unsound centering indicator and am happy to see DA recognize the fault.

  23. I agree with all that you say, FHF. However, this was a pretty easy crossword, my favourites being 21A and 25D. I don’t really like 11A, as it effectively has no definition of its own, but relies on one word in the wordplay.

  24. All the clues are wrong. If DA wants us to write in a word he should tell us what word to write!

  25. 20: Punctuation is significant, or not, at the whim of the compiler. I’ll also point out that if you’re going to complain about trivialities it would be as well to avoid mistakes such as “ISP provider”.

  26. FHF, I can’t agree – I enjoyed the misdirection in ‘Bigpond’, and I don’t mind that ….er (quicker in 14a) is not a word –
    and Jack – I quite liked 11a – I think the exclamation mark is what tells us about the double duty.
    20a was my fav. I also liked 1d. I was pleased to get most of it out this week without help but my SW corner is still blank (21a & d; 26a, 28a, 22d and 25d)
    Chers

  27. Arthur et al – Try parsing the word play part of the clue as: “baby” has “strange” as surrogate for the essence of “Dad”.

  28. I’m still hopelessly behind, as per usual on the crosswords where you all say it’s easy. Most of the south half incomplete.

    Didn’t mind 20A, but only because the combined word gambit is usually pretty obvious when DA does it.

  29. Well, Hi to Tawny and Catherine, helped me to see why my 12A is right after all. No further progress, but did well on the pool table this afternoon, so happy to leave the last six till I see tomorrow’s paper. Unless someone can point me in right direction re 26A, that is, I haven’t any idea on that one.

  30. sb I agree with you. I can’t get anything in the SW corner either.
    I enjoyed today’s Spoonerism.

  31. Ann, I do agree. I always enjoy DA’s Spoonerisms. I remember one DA crossword where “Fake tie” was a Spoonerism for “Take fie” but the true answer was “take five”, as DA had decided to ‘take five’ from every clue!

  32. 20 Rupert, point taken about “ISP provider”. Of a kind as PIN number. We will have to agree to disagree that puctuation is only as significant as a complier cares to make it. I’m not sure whether this was the “triviliaty” you were alluding to.

  33. ok so I have 26a thanks to Ian, and possibly 21d (also thanks to Ian) but don’t get how bombs gives last 2 letters

  34. Arthur, for 26a think of a word for spy intercepting half of a word for elite. The answer is a European. I don’t have much else in the SW corner, only 22d, which I thought a good one, so any hints are welcome.

  35. only 21a to go now!
    So Dave R, see Ian’s post for 21a and 21d.
    21d def is first word made up of party 3, bombs 2
    28a is probably an anagram with some letters missing
    25d nice view is 1-3; I’ll leave the rest to you

  36. Always happens. I post a problem and it solves itself. Only one left in SW corner now is 25d, for which I am sure I have the answer, but can’t get the word play.

  37. sb – 2A was my last in and helped by Ian way above. I think goes like this. “Cow” = 3 letter synonym for letters 1,2,3. “elevated” = 4 letter synonym with “head removed” gives letters 4,5,6. Defn balance.

    Dave R – 25D – “Nice” as in capital noun. And then in that language, what would the “view” be for letters 1,2,3. “captured initially” = letter 4. Defn = balance.

  38. Thanks, sb, I presume the “nice view” is French. I was using “captured” as a container indicator and trying to fit a “v” into a three-letter word for a flash car. BMVW it wasn’t! Ah, as I write even, a lightbulb moment concerning the view which I have on occasion enjoyed from a certain city.

  39. Thanks IGC, I had my aha! moment after thinking through your pointer for 12A. Good luck all still going, see you again next week.

  40. Dave R, thank you for trying to help with 26A. I’m afraid I’m no closer than before, so will abandon this one. May not spend much time on next week’s puzzle, as the cricket will grab my attention for much of the day. i’ll see what can be done. Thanks all.

  41. Yay, so refreshing to not have Barry the bignoter banging on about how good he is. Just need a few other pedants to go away now

  42. All out now, like Rupert, I completed all of the right side before getting any on the left. Then did top left without getting any in the bottom left. Still pondering some wordplays.

  43. Arthur C, in case you’re still there, 26a – 1-3 and 8-9 is a common 10 letter synonym for ‘elite’, halved; + 4 letter spy; making an Italian Jewish chemist and writer; Rupert’s 10.30 post takes you to him.
    I still don’t have 21a despite above help; but I think that’s it for today.
    ciao for niao

  44. Sb re 21a, as the above said somewhere, think nautical, removing something from the bottom (of the sea)

  45. @Barry, loved your suggestion at 7.37 pm, but the likelihood of it being needed can be greatly reduced if you remove food scraps from their preferred environment.

  46. Boo hiss the pseudo-word – pre-reduction – in 14 ac
    Actually probably valid but clumsy form of an adjective better expressed with the prefix “more”!
    For those wondering what the horror movie of 15 down could possibly be it’s all but the first 2 letters of the answer,
    and was a Japanese movie that I believe was remade in English and with the central plot device a deadly video tape.

  47. @nn, The only way to remove said food scraps from this enviroment would be for most of you to stop whining ,whinging ,sooking, complaining,banging on , and generally being anal, about a simple cryptic crossword

  48. nn, I agree.

    I have taken Rupert’s advice “Barry, please don’t feed the troll.”. Although “remove food scraps from their preferred environment” may lack the poetry of Rupert’s offering, it’s a pretty good expression.

    That’s why I have not posted today. I see no reason to pollute this lovely and pleasant environment just because a sociopath has turned his warped fantasies against me. Without meaning to sound conceited, I can usually finish a DA in under 30 minutes without recourse to aids. The reason that I came here in the first place (about six months ago) is that a lady with whom I play tennis told me that she struggled with DA and she suggested that I join the debate on this blog. Sadly, this has led to a misanthrope getting his pleasure from my posts. Henceforth, I shall refrain from any comment.

    Rupert and Gayle can usually help the strugglers.

    Arthur, I admire your persistence: I hope that I am still as acute as you are when (if) I reach your age.

    Adieu

  49. No, Barry, please don’t stop because of one person whom nobody else wants to hear from.

  50. Hm. Do I enter the fray? No, maybe not.
    Let’s leave the cheap shots to our politicians.
    (Well, maybe just a bit.)

  51. I have only just begun to understand DA cryptics by following DA Confusions for some weeks now, and it is so satisfying and really exciting. Thank you to all the sensible contributors who resist “spoiling” clues.
    What a special site to access help – until the last two weeks with the “spoiler ” being someone who is a bully offering no help to beginners – only dirty language and unwanted and upsetting comments to another.
    Please establish a Code of Conduct and block these conversations out! DA please come to the rescue to keep Confusions Clean!!

  52. 21A my fave this week. Needed this blog to get the wordplay for 14a and 25d (which I think was a bit contrived…)
    And remember: there’s no such thing as secrecy (or anonymity)

  53. Couldn’t live without my Friday dose of Salted Diva. I do not take umbrage but delight in your stimulating, thought provoking crosswords.

  54. JimmyDArat | November 16, 2013 at 12:55 am |
    Fuck me in a shit guy

    Now who ever posted the above, you need to learn how to spell and give insults.
    Me thinks it is Barry.
    Notice how the phantom rat is a link in blue, the real rat does not have a link.

  55. MJH, word that could colloquially mean trouble. More commonly seen during the last part of the clue.

  56. 21d still eludes me.Is it a common word?Also,Barry I think you somewhat deserve your insults from Jimmy.Its not uncommon for you to boast about how quick you can solve DA but there is no reason to do so and it irks most people to listen to a boaster.Sorry but true

  57. john – 21D – Defn = 1st word. “party” (as in political) = letters 1,2,3. “bombs” = 2 types of bombs for letter 4 and letter 5.

  58. Well, this well and truly degenerated.

    I run this site along with RC. Generally we haven’t had to weigh into anything and just let things run free, but every now and again, like on this thread, something needs to be said.

    JimmyDArat, and whoever seems to be impersonating JimmyDArat, just please stop. I, and most others on this site, simply don’t appreciate your comments and general behaviour. It’s insulting and unpleasant to people. You’re deliberately setting out to be insulting and unpleasant, so you know the difference between appropriate and inappropriate behaviour, so please when you’re on this site, choose to behave appropriately rather than not.

    john and Barry, I hereby proclaim this thread a place where one can boast about how quickly one finishes the crossword as along as there’s no belittling of others’ efforts. In fact, there’s a category called DA Poolroom where everyone is encouraged to comment about particular milestones in their DA-solving career. Have a look: http://datrippers.com/category/the-da-poolroom/

    Anyway, let’s all think pleasant thoughts, sing Kumbaya and be grateful for the cruciverbalist plenty that is delivered to us each week. Positive thoughts, nice thoughts, helpful thoughts.

  59. Hey folks, like Tawny I’ve been a bit of a lurker here for, well, ages! I have the northern half but can’t for the life of me think of the horror flick in 15d… and 16a?? I just don’t know! Apologies if these are addressed above! Help? (the clerical gadget has me stumped also) And as an aside, thank you all for your help over the years… great work. Cheers!

  60. Hi Tawny, Catherine and Nebraska.

    16A beauty (Glamazon) and downed(drank), then Spoonerise for the definition. If you need more, sing out.
    19A Letters 1-5 gives synonym for ‘sees’, as in ‘goes out with’. Letters 6-9 synonym for ‘compact’ as in press down on coffee, soil etc

  61. Thank you Gayle. Was stuck on compact as an adj. John also, cheers. all makes sense!

  62. John, thank you for agreeing Barry is a boaster, but never be sorry for speaking your mind,its good to get some real truth into this site.
    I just dont believe Barry tells the truth about being able to solve this cryppie in any time, 30 mins or a day , when he has said ,I have never heard of that that word or term, well then how did he get it ?
    I would suggest he is using Google, crossword solvers and anagram solvers and all other aids.
    I can see a tosser from a mile away and i dont like them.
    So John , Welcome to DA Trippers comrade

  63. AS,
    Why would i stop my fair comments. Do you not accept freedom of speech?
    Now I and some others dont appreciate the bullshit that some of these word wanker pedants spout, and i will not let that wankerism go unnoticed ok.
    AS, you can think the world is all sweetness and light, but i beg to differ, when there are anal word wankers about, something needs to be done, dont worry about Syria or any other bullshit cause, Cryppies are the most important thing.
    best regards The rat :)

  64. AS | November 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm |

    Well, this well and truly degenerated.

    I run this site along with RC. Generally we haven’t had to weigh into anything and just let things run free, but every now and again, like on this thread, something needs to be said.

    JimmyDArat, and whoever seems to be impersonating JimmyDArat, just please stop. I, and most others on this site, simply don’t appreciate your comments and general behaviour. It’s insulting and unpleasant to people. You’re deliberately setting out to be insulting and unpleasant, so you know the difference between appropriate and inappropriate behaviour, so please when you’re on this site, choose to behave appropriately rather than not.

    john and Barry, I hereby proclaim this thread a place where one can boast about how quickly one finishes the crossword as along as there’s no belittling of others’ efforts. In fact, there’s a category called DA Poolroom where everyone is encouraged to comment about particular milestones in their DA-solving career. Have a look: http://datrippers.com/category/the-da-poolroom/

    Anyway, let’s all think pleasant thoughts, sing Kumbaya and be grateful for the cruciverbalist plenty that is delivered to us each week. Positive thoughts, nice thoughts, helpful thoughts.

    To AS, It has taken me a few hours to try and get my head around your comments.
    First paragraph no comment.

    Second paragraph here we go.
    AS, I, and some others on this site, simply don’t appreciate word wanker comments and general behaviour. It’s insulting and unpleasant to us. You’re deliberately setting out to be insulting and unpleasant, so you know the difference between appropriate and inappropriate behaviour, so please when you’re on this site, choose to behave appropriately rather than not.

    Third paragraph,
    Fine, if anyone can boast how quickly they have finished the DA , then they have to post the answers and all explanations at the same time ,and prove they havent had help or be known as DA BULLSHIT WANKERs.

    Fourth paragraph,
    That made me vomit, ewwwwwwww

  65. I don’t really understand all the exchanges that have been going on this week, but isn’t it all about the crosswords, and maybe a little bit about developing a community of people who like crosswords, and not about being nasty to each other?

  66. JimmyDArat, just don’t post anything negative. Be positive, supportive. That’s all I ask.

    And if you don’t like that, if people here annoy you, if you feel having to be supportive is a form of censorship that you can’t abide by, then don’t bother with this site. Go somewhere else if this site doesn’t cut the mustard for you.

  67. Thanks to all who contribute here. That includes Barry.
    Jimmy just because you don’t understand DAs wordplay to get words you don’t know (the Flying Spaghetti Monster knows I don’t ) doesn’t mean others don’t.
    All we ask is that you contribute – two people are running this site for free (notice there’s no advertising ?). Adding moderation. And blocking is probably too much overhead.
    Personally I can just ignore your verbal crapping but then it’s not aimed at me.
    I do not think saying what I have genuinely achieved is boasting. I ran 5km in 21min 30 this weekend but it took me two days to get 50% of this DA out. There are all types in this world and it works best if people get on. We just don’t understand why you have to ruin it here.

  68. Now to 2d – there’s no way I could get salvo from blast. A salvo is multiple shots in my understanding… But that’s DA – he thinks differently to me.

  69. To all DATrippers who participate in this forum in a constructive manner, I may not know how to get rid of trolls using web security or filters, but I do have some advice on how to spoil their fun.

    Simply ignore them. Don’t acknowledge their existence or their taunts. Don’t fall into the trap of giving any oxygen to their comments, even if your post is well intentioned (eg providing support to a targeted contributor). And don’t shy away from posting. Simply continue to participate as you normally would. Continue your conversations on the forum without acknowledging (better still not even reading) any comments from trolls.

    If you stop contributing, the troll wins. If you take the bait, the troll wins. If you ignore the troll, he/she eventually gets bored and goes away in search of another target.

  70. Couldn’t agree more. I wince every time I see obviously intelligent people respond to the idiot or discuss his posts – can’t you see that’s what he wants?! Also there’s no point in simply asking him to stop, we know that isn’t effective. How long has this been going on now – months?

    Do you have the ability to delete posts? If you do, couldn’t a group of regulars just agree to take turns to do moderation? Give those rights to some established regulars on the site – they can then simply remove the posts as, or soon after they appear. I am sure everyone sensible on here would trust them to remove only the nonsense.

    I was away last weekend so have only just got to this DA today. Struggled through it except for the SW corner. Hints here only helped a bit. Gave up without 25D or 22D. Liked quite a few clues this week – the Spoonerism especially.

  71. Well done all of you, Isnt Barry just a complete troll ?, I think we have finally got rid of it

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