DA Confusion for the 5/6th of October, 2012

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61 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 5/6th of October, 2012

  1. A good DA this week, not too hard. Lots of DA-ish wit.

    Still a couple to work on over coffee. 16D and 14A were my favourites so far.

  2. Help please. Think I have it all but may not as I do not understand my answer to 25A (of course meaning I may has 16D and or 18D incorrect). Thanks.

  3. 25A: The hero is from a trilogy of films from 1999 – 2003. The gas is found in certain lights, and is missing its last letter.

    I’m still stuck on 27A and 3D.

  4. Thanks Rupert. 25A I had as no oxygen. Now I get it.
    3D: first 3 letters are the same as 8D (reversed). Rest should follow with first word as the defn.
    27A: last word definition. Letters 3, 4, 5, 6 a gutless 5 letter word for stick fighting. Letters 1, 2, 7 fairly stupid.

  5. 3D: I had 11A wrong (wrong preposition on the end)
    27A: I had 22D wrong (it’s not a joint)

    Thanks, all done now. So please explain to me:

    19D: I think “include credit” gives letters 1 – 4, but how is “supporter” cluing letters 5 – 7?
    28A: Hadn’t heard of him, and he doesn’t show up on the first page of a Google search for his last name*.
    20D: “megastar on vacation” clues letters 1 and 6, but I don’t get how.

    * This is more of a whinge than a confusion, but I’m a Pom, so I’m allowed ;)

  6. 19D: credit is letters 2,3,4,5. Supporter is “raised” so is 7,6,1

    28A: Aussie TV – host of related program.

    20D: yeah! My thinking is that “on vacation” means “U GONE” from our megastar

  7. Done. 20d was last in. I see “megastar on vacation” as our star after being vacated (ie getting rid of the contents of our star)
    Liked 16D 14A and 12A.

  8. You all liked 16d. I might too if I could get it. Any clues? Also need help with 6d and 12a. I liked 14a and 4d.

  9. Amazing. Ask for help and you work it out yourself. 12a and 6d now done. Still having trouble with 16d though.

  10. And again. Who’d have thought? I was even writing this on a related product to the mobile in 16d!! I like it too.

  11. (Sorry pressed post comment prematurely above!)
    I’ve just got 12A and 8D left. Think I have the first word for 8D and think the definition is the last 2 words. But still stuck. Any hints?
    And I think I’ve got 18D but don’t quite get the wordplay?
    Thanks!

  12. 8D: You’re right on the definition. You just need to find the six letter word for “overseas” that when “unlimited” gives the last letter of the first word and letters 1 -3 of the second word.

    12A: Definition is the first two words. It’s a Spanish word, but used mainly in Mexican cuisine.

    18D: It’s an archaic exclamation (“my”) and a homophone of a well-known soft drink.

  13. All done. For once, I’ve managed to decode all the wordplays too. Wouldn’t have got there without datrippers’ tippers though. Thanks again.

  14. Welcome back! Last week was a disater, as couldnt access site. Today, flying start, top half finished by 0800. Having some problems in lower half, haven’t looked above yet.

  15. Bothered about 18D. Material for Scotch whisky? 27A? Is this some fictional realm? I interpret the gutless stick fighting to refer to a Japanese martial art, giving letters 3,4. But 1,2, 5-7? Some assistance would be appreciated. Still have ten to solve, but these two would help.

  16. Arthur C: some exerpts from above may help – see cut and pastes below:

    27A: last word definition. Letters 3, 4, 5, 6 a gutless 5 letter word for stick fighting. Letters 1, 2, 7 fairly stupid.

    (From Rupert) 18D: It’s an archaic exclamation (“my”) and a homophone of a well-known soft drink.

  17. Missed you all last week! Glad to find site today, but no joy! Only a few lines of clarity, rest a big blur. Aargh! Heading for the bike ride to nowhere. Better than trichotillomania.
    DAblured.

  18. re 25A. I was on the wrong track. Had Assange as the heroic hacker minus gas but that led nowhere. Topical but sadly misplaced

  19. Thanks Rupert. All sorted now. Had the right answer for 18D but assumed of course that “my” was the possessive meaning – clever. Should have made the connection too since I remember that expression when growing up in England!
    I think 15D was my favourite clue this week.
    This site is a great help & thanks to those who organise it – I’ve only been into DA for a year or two so I usually have to resort to coming on here most weeks for tips although haven’t posted before now.

  20. Thanks Ray, I had sorted out the realm in 27A, as you suggest. Only five to go now, will search above before asking more questions. 16, 19, 20, 22D, 26A. I’ll see if I find any helpful hints above. Re 20D, there appears only one island that can be used, giving letters 2-5, but letters 1 & 6 I can’t justify, except that 6 is end of 28A, which I have correctly, a good clue.

  21. Arthur C.
    22D Duck head means to remove the 1st letter of another word.
    26A Hamper clues 1st letter and last 5 letters.

  22. Thanks, Julian. If I’m interpreting your clue correctly (26A), this is something a motor might do. But, apart from the clown at 4-6, and the hamper at 1 & 7-11, I can’t see relevance of ‘observe’ or ‘flip’. I’ve now filled in the entire grid, but completely lost on interpretation of some of the clues, 16D a classic example, with 22D similar. I can’t find anything resembling credit in 19D, except it might refer to onliner payment for toll road?

  23. @Arthur C.
    26A: Flip can be “flip out”
    16D: popular phone inside barriers of sound. def is first word
    22D: Think of Ducks Feet, Humans can also get this on their feet, with the first letter removed, or “duck its head”.

  24. @Arthur C.
    19D: Credit (like on a test) is letters 2-5. 1,6,7 are a support used in a sport backwards

  25. @ Arthur C, 26a is indeed something a car might do. Letters 2-3 is an old-fashioned term for “observe”. It’s the “clown” that’s flipped.
    16d – “Sound barriers” provides 1,8. “Mobile” supplies 2-7.
    19d – “Credit” is 2-5. I thought this was a bit tenuous but I guess it refers to something an exam marker might do on a paper for which the student gets a “credit”. Someone else might have a better explanation.
    22d is the last 5 letters of a 6 letter word describing duck feet.

  26. Arthur C: My thoughts:
    20D: 1 and 6 are our megastar with “you” gone (on vacation) – my interpretation.
    26A: Flip is the def’n. 2, 3 is a word for see / observe.
    19D: credit is 2, 3, 4, 5.
    16D: is sound barriers around an apple.
    22d: is as per Julian – a beheaded duck foot.
    Hope this helps.

  27. Please help with 15d.
    And hello to everyone. Meet my mum Margaret who is doing her first DA with me today.

  28. Jason L – the credit reference in 19D is a slang term. You get something “on xxxx”, it means you get it on credit, can’t remember where I’ve heard it but it definitely rang bells in my head when I got the answer.

  29. Ta to Jeff, JasonL and Ray. All more or less clear now. I’ve always been a bit twisty, a necessary quality in a cruciverbalist, now I see I wasn’t quite twisty enough!
    Michelle, as a radio bloke, I learned about those things early on. Alexander Graham Bell, bottomless, became a unit of sound intensity, accompanied by his friend Dessie. Think of when the hot season starts.

  30. Found this site a couple of months ago and have not looked back since. I have always loved doing the midweek cryptic but have always given up trying to complete a DA. Now armed with your helpful insights, a dictionary and Google, I have not failed. Keep up the good fight one and all.
    PS my name is not a typo, it is indeed cryptic!

  31. Michelle, you seem to have been left hanging on 1A and 15D so don’t know if you’re still online this late in the day.
    1A: Summer’s start in Australia is the first four letters, the fourth of which can look like a letter or a number. An abbreviated instrument makes a clang is the last three letters. The whole is a measure of loudness.
    15D: The answer means “nonetheless” and it is spelled out in a mix of upper and lower letters that defines the answer.

  32. Couldn’t start till today and am finding answers with much head scratching. If anyone is still out there help with 14a and3d would be great.

  33. Hi megse
    1st word is definition. There’s a bone upwards, on a short form/abbreviation of 1a, and a type of drop ie ….drop

    14 a Think who is WC an actor? Not the loo type
    hope this helps. I only got half way throughwithout help, but pretty happy with that!

  34. I’ve managed most of it but seem to be the only one struggling with 5A and 6D. I have the middle letter of 6D. Any clues gratefully received! Also I think I have 20D but cannot see why, despite all the clues to this one.

  35. Thanks hs . Nearly done now. Its amazing how log you can think and rethink before the lights go on.

  36. 5A: Pastry is usually filled with meat or fruit, the lid is worn by city gents. Spoonerise it and get a psychological condition featuring dramatic mood swings.

    6D: This sounds like a description of a taxonomist, but also of a secretary, or a carpenter. The definition is the plural of the taxonomic rank between kingdom and class.

  37. Thank you so much Rupert – so easy when the light dawns eh? Should have got the Spoonerism but I don’t think I would ever have worked out the taxonomist (even having looked up what one is) without your help. Much appreciated.

  38. 4d made me laugh out loud.
    I liked 15d & 16d too. Thanks for the help, some of the others were making me blow a seal !

  39. One wrong! Had never heard ofchoc-top (2D), ended up with ‘cool-tip’, with cool for great, tip for wedge. But! Can some genius please explain 1D for me? I had dredge, an see absolutely no connection with any part of the clue. All-day sucker? Ruined your smile? Strong palate? Ultimately??????? I’m bewildered.

  40. 1D: I had assumed this was referring the type of barge that sucks mud off the seabed to create a shipping lane. The wordplay is the last letters of “ruined … palate”.

  41. Thanks, Rupert. How stupid of me. I’ve seen this sort of clue in the past, should have twigged.

  42. 20D Despite all the above cannot reconcile the first and last letters. What is the word play in a mid-week clue:
    Shrinks from circus performers (5-8) [Trick cyclists] ?

  43. 20D: I don’t get it, either.

    Your other clue is a double definition. “Trick cyclist” is a pun on “psychiatrist” (I didn’t say it was a good pun), which is clued by “shrink”.

  44. On 20D, the megastar is the SUN, and I think the thinking goes that because the SUN is vacated, i.e. what’s inside is removed, the U gets taken out.

  45. That’s pretty weak. The Sun isn’t a megastar by any definition – it’s only about 12 times as massive as the smallest possible star, though this does put it in the top 85% – 90% of all stars in the galaxy. The biggest stars are about 100 times the mass of the sun.

  46. Thanks Rupert. Agree, not the best pun I’ve heard. No unanimity on the megastar issue!

  47. Saluton Trippers (that’s Esperanto for hello, I learnt last week).

    Agree that ‘megastar on vacation’ = S[u]N = SN is not my finest subterfuge, but I am keen to revisit the ‘vacation’ trick down the road. It has real potential. But next time I’ll state what’s being vacated. ‘Tourist on vacation’ = TT is much fairer, and just as sneaky. Be warned.

    I’m also writing to alert you to this week’s crossword. If you like a strange theme, a chewy challenge, a stint of cranial giddiness, then seek it out. Guaranteed fun & frustration in equal measure. Could well be my best construction of 2012 – but I’ll let you good people decide.

  48. I would think Caribbean vacation = CN is a little neater than having the ON in there? AFTER vacation is probably better still. Vacated premises = PS is even neater.

  49. I quite like the “vacation” clue, but my big problem with 20D was that the def was Island, so I found the possessive ‘s at the end (“Island’s”) a bit misleading…

  50. The possessive s trick is devious yet a standard part of the toolkit among the tougher cryptic compilers.

    You have to think of it not as a possessive but as a contraction, i.e. the difference between John’s hammer and John’s a good guy.

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