DA Confusion for the 30th/31st of March, 2012

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49 thoughts on “DA Confusion for the 30th/31st of March, 2012

  1. You’re going to use a few extra uncommon letters this week. Maybe put them in an empty juicebox?

    11A: I don’t get the wordplay for the first two words.
    14A: I assume this is AFL-related and involved someone called James?
    1D: It looks like a double definition, but I don’t get the first one.
    16A: The second definition is a bit obscure, isn’t it? And lacking a middle name?
    24A: “with affection” can presumably mean any number of these two letters?
    23A: Are the non-“leads” letters clued by “race to serve” or just “race” with “to serve” being an extra definition?

  2. Got all but 10A and 3D.

    11A: “appearing to accept mean” leads to first word. “fine” is second word.
    14A: Correct .I don’t know AFL but know of this guy (choosing my words carefully there).
    1A: Yes it is a DD. First word is past tense of a word meaning to show off.
    16A: I got it first up. But yes…no middle name.
    24A: I think it means the last two letters only
    23A: separate “leads in the race” and “to serve”

    I’m pleased with my progressed this morning. Might be forced to the evil Google later on.

  3. 10A took me a while, too. It’s quite straightforward once you get it. Church is the usual one from the other side of the world. ‘allowed is a synonym of hallowed with the h dropped.

    3D: “salt over” is the reverse of a sailor. “so-called chicken” is a bit wrong, because although the last four letters taken on their own would normally be pronounced like one who does what hens do, it’s not pronounced that way in this word. It’s closer to a homophone of a synonym of prevaricator.

    1A: Huh. Mark 14:72 (KJV). I can’t say I’d ever noticed it.
    23A: Now I’m more confused. Are the leads the sort you’d use to connect your TV to other devices (pre-HDMI)?

    Thanks for the others.

  4. 23A: leads are as in the first letter. Can’t be more direct than that!

    Thanks for the other tips. I was on the hallowed track and also on the chicken run…

  5. 23A: Thanks. I was being too techie, looking at a type of lead inside a word for track (though not really a race). I should put a little “Remember DA’s arts background” sticker on the crossword after I print it!

  6. 8D: “private” = INNER, and “sin” is one of the seven deadly ones.

    10A: One => 1st letter; ‘allowed => letters 3, 4, 5; trust ultimately => letter 6; church => letters 2 & 7.

  7. Got ’em Rupert. 3D’s chicken is highly misleading.
    I don’t get the wordplay in 10A which I saw all of a sudden.

  8. I am there. A bit quicker than usual. A couple of the word plays I didn’t get are explained above. But still puzzling over 19a, apart from the first letter and the last two words (I think I have worked out how they are clued).

  9. Nothing too tricky this week. All out in a little over an hour. I didn’t know the Bomber, but guessed his named from the definition and first letter, then realised I had actually 14d of him.

  10. Took me about two hours, which is a good effort for me.

    At one point I was in the unusual situation with the bottom half entirely done and the top half entirely empty. Then got 9A, 10A and 4D to crack open the top half. NW corner was the last bastion to fall. I still have questions about 2D. Any help appreciated!

    Really liked 6A and 16A. Was wondering is DA could have worked Strange or Mr Norrel into the clue (16A) as well.

    I’m struggling to understand Rupert’s reference to Mark 14:72 in relation to 1A. Mysterious.

  11. He’s at it again! My Smarter Half is lost in the AstleSphere. If you find him, send him on back for a cup of tea.

  12. Well, I’ve put a letter in every square, unusually early. Only about half (I exaggerate slightly) I don’t understand the clue.

  13. 2D: Take a word for blockhead, change the last letter, and you get a part of speech of which “old hat” is an example.

    Mark 14:72 was about 1D (word one of the answer appears in the verse in the King James version). Sorry to add to anyone’s confusion.

  14. @Rupert,
    Thanks for your explanations. I get the Mark 14 reference now. I was reading from a more recent translation.

    Re 2D: ‘old hat’ made me think CLICHE, which doesn’t fit of course. ‘Blockhead’ mislead me into thinking that the word started with B. In the end I did get it, though.

  15. Got it in under an hour. My best effort for quite a while. Not sure of the role of “by” in 16A.

  16. Enjoyable one this week. can we have more like this please, DA! Really liked 19A and 20D, (although 19A grammar is dodgy: def is adj; answer is verb).

    Still a bit puzzled by 1D. My take is that it isn’t a DD:
    The first two words of clue lead to first word of answer,
    Next two words lead to second word of answer (as in playing cards),
    Last two words give the def.
    Is that the way others see it?

    Also, 21D puzzles me. What’s the function of “soldier”?

  17. RB, unless I’m mistaken, the “soldiers at breakfast” comes from someone’s contribution to a Storm puzzle over on DA’s blog. They go with your soft boiled egg.

  18. 21D: ‘Soldiers’ might refer to a way of cutting the item, usually into three or four strips (in my experience).

    @RB, I like your interpretation of 1D. Now it makes perfect sense to me!

  19. @Dave R,
    Re 16A, perhaps ‘Swift seagull’ would be a more efficient clue? It reminds me of an oldie but a goodie: ‘Ellington Wellington’ (5).

  20. Thanks KM and iPuzzled for help on “soldier”. I just confirmed by googling “soldiers at breakfast”.

    And iPuzzled, I like your oldie but goodie: but shouldn’t that be (4)?

  21. Thanks Rupert, but I don’t think “by” is needed to indicate the link. Isn’t the ellipsis enough? iPuzzled, I, too, like your “Ellington Wellington” [which surely is (5) as there are two of them]. Perhaps the clue could contain some reference to “putting ’em up.”

  22. @Dave R,
    Yes, “putting ’em up” would be good. It’s been a while since I saw a triple- or quadruple-definition clue.
    @RB, I can see why you think the answer could/should have four letters, but my vague memory of this (I think appeared 25 to 30 years ago) is that the answer had five letters.

  23. Been away overnight – grabbed the paper to take with me, assuming I could do most of the crossword before coming back to check on here. I have precisely five solutions, and having just read all the comments on here I’m no wiser at all! Don’t you just hate it when you can’t do a crossword everyone else says is easy? Or perhaps that never happens to you? At least I was au fait with the breakfast regiment, which accounted for two of my five.

  24. @Mary,
    Yes, I have times like that. You’re not alone. It’s a very frustrating feeling. Any clues in particular that are driving you up the wall?

  25. @iPuzzled, thanks – it’s mostly parsing now, I think. I got on a lot better once I was back at home with access to Google – eg for realising how 7d was related to 11a, and finding the footballer I’d never heard of, and twigging that curry in 3d wasn’t an anagrind. (Thanks, DA – wish you weren’t quite so good at the misdirection!)
    I actually felt better when I realised how close I’d been before I gave up yesterday. I had the right definition for 1a, but couldn’t get away from the alternative that’s (5,4) instead of (4,5). And I had the right letters for 17 but simply couldn’t see the anagram.
    Can’t parse 24 or 25. And it may just be me, but does anyone else think the definition of 19 is the wrong part of speech?

  26. @Mary,
    24A:
    ‘Copy’ is the def.
    DA used the word (a trademark) as a verb in a clue a few weeks ago.
    ‘kisser’ givers the first three letter of the answer. Don’y want to give it away but these three letters aren’t a proper English word.
    ‘with affection’ provide the last two letters.

    25A:
    ‘Used’ is the def.
    ‘frame’ is a containment marker. That is, the name for one of the Windows systems (two letters) is contained inside something else.
    ‘Shift’ is an anagrind.
    ‘Cut’ means remove some (2 in this case) letters.

    This is probably too much detail, but as it is Sunday arvo I think that’s okay.

  27. @iPuzzled, thanks again.
    24: I (sort of) see – I had the first and last letters sussed, but hadn’t thought to attach the next two letters to the first one. It’s the last two that still puzzle me slightly – aren’t they usually used the other way round, and doubled?
    25: Yes, I do see – but isn’t the ‘cut’ just the last letter?
    It’s probably late enough for more specific comments. I’m still gob-smacked at DA’s traps which I always obligingly fall into – I was convinced that in 6a I was looking for a three-letter ignoramus to put inside the librarian’s request, which made me equally convinced that 8d began with ‘h’ for ‘hard’. The man’s a masochist, but we love him really!

  28. I did of course mean ‘sadist’!
    No wonder I had trouble this week – my brain cells seem to have been re-wired

  29. Hi all,
    Well it has taken me two years since I last did it; but this is only the second time that I have been able to decrypt DA unaided by computers, dictionaries or spouse. This time it took only the final two quarters of the Geelong match on TV with the last two magically appearing during the overnight sleep. Really enjoyed it and the continued use of “J” sure helped. Having finally boasted to said spouse about the last one out (Toast) she declared that one as trivial as everyone in Victoria (I’m from Queensland!) knows that you cut your toast into ‘little soldiers’ to dip into the boiled egg!!

  30. Finally it has all come together–I knew I was in trouble as soon as the early posters said it was easy. Didn’t help that I spelt 16A wrongly (note to self—check the spelling every time!), and that DA double-bluffed me perfectly with 14A—he’s my favourite player of all time, but I couldn’t believe that DA would put in such a city-specific clue. Still don’t understand the word-play of 19A–where does the last letter of the 5 letter word come from?

  31. Mary, I agree with you about 19A grammar: the def is an adjective, the answer a verb. Bending the “rules”, even by DA’s standards. Also, you’re right about 25A: just the last letter is cut from “deletion”.

  32. nf, re 19A, sounds like you may have more problems than just one letter.
    “backpack” gives first letter.
    “zip” gives letters 2,3,6-10.
    “was scanned” gives letters 4,5.
    “row to fashion” gives last five letters.

  33. Thanks RB. My answer was correct, but -as often happens-it came to me through intuition rather than logic.

  34. Once again, all correct, and without havinng obtained any tips from here. But it would take half a page to set out all the bits of clues I didn’t understand, but, clearly, I understood enough to fill all the squares. Have a blessed Easter, all.

  35. Been away all weekend so didn’t start until this afternoon. Like Arthur, I’ve filled it all in, but a long way off understanding all the wordplay at the moment.
    Will read all your comments in the hope of some enlightenment.

  36. thanks RB for explanation of wordplay in 19a, far, far too convoluted for any mere mortal to have got! I suspect a few others may be like that. Over to crossword club to see if they can help with the others.

  37. Anybody still about on here? Just posting to express my appreciation of DP today (Wednesday).
    Took me a long time to work out what on earth was going on, then another age to fill in all the theme clues. Very satisfying when completed – thank you, DP.

  38. I enjoyed taking the odd glance at this through the week and liked the mini-theme. I made a mistake on “JOHN DOE” and put in “JUST DUE” which prevented me from knowing a thing or two. Easy misses on a good puzzle. An Easter theme tomorrow/Sat?

  39. Way gives the first two letters (abbreviation for a sort of thoroughfare)
    Ceremony is a four letter word, usually found preceding “circumstance”, which loses its initial letter to give the last three letters of the answer.

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