Confusions, Confusions on the 15/16th of October, 2010

Questions to be asked and answered right here.

17 across: Close third in fair tourney (5)
How does the wordplay mean joust?

21 thoughts on “Confusions, Confusions on the 15/16th of October, 2010

  1. For Peter:
    11a: a.m., then the fist and last letters of EditioN, then the corner kick of a soccer match.

  2. Ta, obviously I missed this kick.
    By dinner time 87 y.o. mom had most of it out but for did not know the modern terms 7D & 8D, and (being a Canadian) wrote airball for 24A.

  3. I give up. Got the dog in 23A, thanks to google, but the word play is a mystery. Marker turned tail ? Is marker a sharpie, turn tail = Shar Pei, or am I barking up the wrong tree.

  4. Maybe I should have googled Sharpie. When I was younger Sharpies were people you avoided walking down George St. late at night.

  5. Offtopic, but I only knew the name through a stand-up comedian’s joke: “Sharpie – the pencil that writes 10,000 words” So I bought one, but mine only wrote 9,998 words. Then when I took it back to the shop the man told me what the other two words were….

  6. Wordplay explanations, please, for 15A (the last bit, that is – DENSE = FIR ??), and 15D.

  7. AG,
    15A: dense = FIRM, with M to the front
    15D: i had to confirm that BIER was indeed a word

  8. Never heard of Shar Pei or Sharpie (except the kind mentioned by JJ earlier), so I struggled with that one. For 11A, I had a different take on sidekick = corner, thinking that it might have been a boxing reference to the cornerman.

    Some nice clues – my favourites were 14A, 8D, 20A, 3D, 7D.

  9. I, too, thought of a sidekick as someone who is in your corner, but Ian is obviously on to a better line of reasoning. Yes, a good one again. Enjoyed 3D, 7D and 13D. Took ages to get 8D, but now I know that there’s a name for that (even though all the references to it that came up on Google seemed to make it one 7-letter word, not 4,3.)

  10. First time for ages I have managed to get a DA out. Very satisfying. Last clue was 23A which I had to google. I’ve never heard of Sharpie either. Proud of getting 15A purely from the wordplay and the DA-like definition. Re 5D, shouldn’t the clue specify (5’1,3) not (6,3)?

  11. Great crossword,loved 14D Only problem I have is with 25A,answer is E-text, but what is meant by ‘Kindle’. Is this a computer term?
    Incidentally a big thankyou to whoever alerted us to DA on TV, Letters and Numbers, 6.00pm SBS. A great show for puzzle enthusiasts.

  12. Can someone explain the wordplay in 14A? Can’t see what it has to do with speeches and sheds.
    Maybe I’m a bit DENSE… or is that FIRM? Poor synonym in my view. Maybe HARD or SOLID are better options?

  13. NC: We’ve had this debate before. When the apostrophe indicates possessive case (as in Hooke’s), it’s quite common not to show the apostrophe in the word lengths.

    BH: I’m a fan of Letters and Numbers too.

    mrigeoy: 14A is a beauty, but it took a while for the penny to drop.
    ‘speech’ = ORATION
    ‘at shed’ is an instruction to remove ‘at’, thus giving ORION

    And I thought dense = firm a poor synonym too (15A).

  14. Thanks for the explanation Ian and RB. You’re right RB, it is a great clue. Wish I had been able to work out the wordplay, would have been one of those aha! moments.

  15. Good puzzle; only quibble is Hooke’s law. Being a physicist, it is a part of my life and the apostrophe is not optional. So it did throw me.

  16. I used to complain about the missing apostrophe, but it’s apparently the cryptic convention that apostrophes are only included in the letter count when it marks a contraction, not a possessive.

    Thus, ISN’T SHE LOVELY would be marked (3’1, 3, 6), while AARON’S ROD would be marked (6, 3)

    I’m not sure I agree with the convention, but a convention it is nonetheless, and one I think DA always follows.

  17. Thanks all for the explanation about the missing apostrophe. I have been overseas most of the year and haven’t caught up with all the archived posts yet.

    “shed” is one of my favourite wordplay instructions, so the first thing I did for 14A was try to think of a word to remove “at” from, which made the clue relatively easy.

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