Comments on: The Confusion (DA on the 30th/31st of October) http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/ "A force for good", David Astle (DA) Mon, 21 May 2012 19:46:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: RC http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2897 RC Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:48:41 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2897 I thought it was an excellent crossword this week and nearly got it all out solo. Only missed 24D, which I had no idea about until those last comments. I was a bit hazy on successor too. I thought it was an excellent crossword this week and nearly got it all out solo. Only missed 24D, which I had no idea about until those last comments. I was a bit hazy on successor too.

]]> By: Manda http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2894 Manda Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:51:43 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2894 Thanks for that RB; I'll have to pay closer attention to what's written before! Thanks for that RB; I’ll have to pay closer attention to what’s written before!

]]> By: RB http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2893 RB Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:18:05 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2893 Re the non-formal usage of "into": being "into" something doesn't quite conjure up the same obsession-like connotation as "consumed by". However, if you also add the word "really", I would agree that "really into" is very close to "consumed by", whilst "really consumed by" smacks of over-exaggeration (sic)! But I hasten to add that this is only an observation, not a complaint. Re the non-formal usage of “into”: being “into” something doesn’t quite conjure up the same obsession-like connotation as “consumed by”. However, if you also add the word “really”, I would agree that “really into” is very close to “consumed by”, whilst “really consumed by” smacks of over-exaggeration (sic)! But I hasten to add that this is only an observation, not a complaint.

]]> By: AS http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2892 AS Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:01:38 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2892 I really should have figured out at least a couple of those! Thanks for the help peoples. As for 24D, I think that can be explained with what I'm assuming is slang or at least non-formal: amongst my generation anyway, it's very common to say "I'm really into Prince" or "I'm really into her", which is more or less "I'm really consumed by Prince" or "I'm really consumed by her". I really should have figured out at least a couple of those!

Thanks for the help peoples.

As for 24D, I think that can be explained with what I’m assuming is slang or at least non-formal: amongst my generation anyway, it’s very common to say “I’m really into Prince” or “I’m really into her”, which is more or less “I’m really consumed by Prince” or “I’m really consumed by her”.

]]> By: RB http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2891 RB Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:33:52 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2891 Manda, re 24D: Ian and Dave R discussed this earlier - see above. But in case you're still puzzled, try this: Consumed by = into dope = info strongly = f (think forte (literally stongly) in music) time = t So "strongly lost to time" means change "f" to "t", so that "info" becomes "into" As Dave R says, "consumed by" is a bit strong for "into". But I suppose you could think of "consumed by" as meaning contained by or within, or more simply just inside or into. Manda, re 24D: Ian and Dave R discussed this earlier – see above. But in case you’re still puzzled, try this:
Consumed by = into
dope = info
strongly = f (think forte (literally stongly) in music)
time = t
So “strongly lost to time” means change “f” to “t”, so that “info” becomes “into”

As Dave R says, “consumed by” is a bit strong for “into”. But I suppose you could think of “consumed by” as meaning contained by or within, or more simply just inside or into.

]]> By: Manda http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2890 Manda Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:48:32 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2890 Any ideas as to how the answer to 24D is "into"?? Have seen the result in Sat SMH but still can't figure it out. Liked the Spoonerism of 20A. Enjoy reading everyone's responses. Any ideas as to how the answer to 24D is “into”?? Have seen the result in Sat SMH but still can’t figure it out. Liked the Spoonerism of 20A. Enjoy reading everyone’s responses.

]]> By: TT http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2889 TT Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:27:31 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2889 Ummm... what RB said. 5 down: Fuel up motor during strike to extend preliminary payment (10) The question: how does to extend preliminary payment = ante? An "ante" is a bet to allow you to bet. In other words it is a preliminary payment you must make before you are allowed to play, say, poker. The phrase "ante up" means place your entry bets. Ummm… what RB said.

5 down: Fuel up motor during strike to extend preliminary payment (10)

The question: how does to extend preliminary payment = ante?

An “ante” is a bet to allow you to bet. In other words it is a preliminary payment you must make before you are allowed to play, say, poker. The phrase “ante up” means place your entry bets.

]]> By: TT http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2888 TT Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:23:10 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2888 AS 8 down: Wait as leader in African republic demoted fight (4, 5) Problem: what's the anagram notifier for Ghana? Have I got this preliminary explanation completely wrong? The "leader" of the African republic, in this case Ghana, is "demoted" to a lesser prominence in the answer. In other words the G moves from the first letter so that GHANA becomes HAN G A. AS

8 down: Wait as leader in African republic demoted fight (4, 5)

Problem: what’s the anagram notifier for Ghana? Have I got this preliminary explanation completely wrong?

The “leader” of the African republic, in this case Ghana, is “demoted” to a lesser prominence in the answer. In other words the G moves from the first letter so that GHANA becomes HAN G A.

]]> By: RB http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2887 RB Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:18:16 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2887 Re 22A: That was my explanation too, Reecie. Re 5D: "preliminary payment" = ANTE (as in the "pot" at poker) "extend" is the indicator to "insert into" (DA has used this before). Re 8D: It's not just an anagram of GHANA. The leader is demoted i.e. the first letter is moved downwards - so it becomes HANGA. Re 22A: That was my explanation too, Reecie.

Re 5D: “preliminary payment” = ANTE (as in the “pot” at poker)
“extend” is the indicator to “insert into” (DA has used this before).

Re 8D: It’s not just an anagram of GHANA. The leader is demoted i.e. the first letter is moved downwards – so it becomes HANGA.

]]> By: Reecie http://datrippers.com/2009/10/30/the-confusion-da-on-the-30th31st-of-october/#comment-2886 Reecie Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:53:12 +0000 http://datrippers.com/?p=384#comment-2886 Re 22A - this one drove me to the edge and I'm still not sure if my explanation is right, but according to wiki the sen was a Japanese coin taken out of circulation in the 1950s. If so, then change required in japan = SEN, to accept united = WED giving nation = SWEDEN Re 22A – this one drove me to the edge and I’m still not sure if my explanation is right, but according to wiki the sen was a Japanese coin taken out of circulation in the 1950s. If so, then change required in japan = SEN, to accept united = WED giving nation = SWEDEN

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