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So who else loved DA’s little gem – 7 Down (Spooner’s outing productive for Broadway street) – Forty Second!!
Oh, and how could I forget 13 Across (Fornmer VP wet big swimmer in sound) – Dan Quayle!
25A, 17D, 21D, 23D: Was able to figure out the answers, but I was puzzled, in part, by some of each clue. How do they work?
6A: “A great deal” -> oft seems dodgy.
22A: Never heard of a cheonosam.
Wonder if DA was tempted to combine 1D and 17D to form one clue.
21D: Just remembered there’s a snake called a boomslang.
21D: neighbour = abut; only = sole, deficient only = sol; hence absolut. Agree that 6A is marginal
Although “deficient vodka label” gave me “absolut”, I couldn’t work out the rest.
As it turned out, “the rest” was redundant.
As “a bear of little brain” (1A and 18A), I need help with the 11A part of 10,11A.
10A: For fear, we hear -> terror -> terra.
25A African capital’s facade buried by apartments
African capital = Tunis; “Tunis” facade = T; buried => uniTs = apartments
17D Casualty medic cut broke strike for vital fluid supply
Casualty = ER, medic = MB, strike = spank; ERMB cut broke spank = spERM Bank = vital fluid supply
10,11A … for fear, we hear, of business models adopting a household’s top choice?
for fear = terror (we hear) = terra; business = co, models = T T; adopting a = A = terra cotta = a household’s top choice (i.e. terra cotta roof tiles)
6D Pru’s friend getting behind graduate project = obtrude
Pattern matching the checked lights via the web threw up “obtrude”, which I assume is the answer (as obtrude = project), and Google tells me that “Pru” and “Trude” are comic (?) characters by TV’s Gina Riley & Jane Turner …
getting a bit far into TV Week territory here, but okay…
But must mean graduate = “OB”? Uh, help?
And what’s the answer to 12D Testing time exploited prior detail (5,6)
I (think I) have all the crossing lights : T_I_L_ E_I_D
but the answer still evades me … again, help?
(BTW, TT re 22A … it’s “cheongsam”, not “cheonosam”.)
Never mind re. 12D … just realized I had marked the split at (6,5) instead of (5,6)… “trial period”, of course.
Instead, can anyway explain 8D Cover up Fossey encounter (5)?
I assume the answer must be “Diane” (for Dian[e] Fossey); so
how does the rest of the clue work? (And if it is “Diane”, is that
an error? The ‘net insists her name is spelled “Dian”, not “Diane”.)
bloke = HE
scam = CON
mags obscenely = GSAM
Tight dress = CheONgsam
Still can’t explain Diane – wondered whether it might be Drape? (DR and APE). Has anyone seen the answers?
You are right, haiku, it is ‘drape’ = ‘cover up’ and ‘Dr Ape’. Thanks MF for 11A. Am I missing something in 9A ‘Exploiting the margin’? The answer is nightmare, an anagram of ‘the margin’, but shouldn’t there be more?
JG, it’s a two-parter as indicated by the ” … ” at the end and beginning of 9A and 10A respectively.
“Exploiting the margin …” joins with ” … for fear”.
The tell is “for fear” which gives “nightmare”, which is an anagram of the exploited “the margin”.
MF, thanks for that.
25A, Tunis -> units is neat.
17D Casualty = ER, medic = MB clears up my query.
22A: No wonder I’d never heard of a cheonosam. And now I’ve never heard of a cheongsam, too. Changsome, anyone?
22A The only one I couldn’t get was cheongsam and still don’t understand it, apart from scam on the outside.
I got this one out except for 2 (6A & 6D). I thought 6D must be intrude or extrude. I never thought of obtrude. OB = old boy = graduate. I presume the answer to 6A is “offed”?! Does that mean “took out”?! In what sense?
I thought this DA was really good (except for 6A), with a high percentage of chuckles when I got one.
‘offed’ means ‘took out’ in the sense of ‘to execute someone’.
Thanks ML! I have never heard the word “offed” used that way. In fact I don’t think I have ever heard the word “offed” at all. I must get out more :) I have also never heard of a “boomslang”. I assumed that TT was joking, but then I googled and was enlightened.
A couple of DA Teachings for me!
RY, if you’re still puzzled by cheongsam, see haiku’s explanation 4 entries earlier than yours.
Agree with Di – “Forty Second” and “Dan Quayle” were worthy of GOLD!
I’ve just surfaced (busy weekend), and am surprised to find I seem to be the only one puzzled by 16A (I assume it’s EVENS, but why?). Also I’m a bit unsure about these two:
5D: Is it PAEAN? And does it go like this?
Skite = PAN
writer = AE (pseudonym for George William Russell – thanks Google)
Skite about writer = P AE AN = ringing
My concern is that ringing = PAEAN is a bit dodgy. My sources say that a paean is a “joyous song of praise”. And that’s hardly a “ringing”.
8D: I too initially thought it must be DIANE, but DRAPE is obviously better. However, I still don’t get the encounter bit. It seems to go like this:
Cover up = DRAPE
Fossey = DR APE
So what purpose is “encounter” serving here?
writer = Pen
about = re
Pen ringing re = PREEN which = skite
If a horse is even money, it’s the most likely winner of the race, and often described as “evens”. So in racing parlance, evens are a type of odds – a bit of wordplay from DA with “odds, improbably!”
8D: Fossey (Dr) encounters her subject of study (Ape)? I think the clue might have been neater without the encounter …
RB, my guess is that ‘5D skite about writer ringing’ is “preen”.
about = “re”; writer = “pen”; “pen” ringing “re” = “preen” = skite
5D: Yes, I’m happy with PREEN.
8D: Cover up Fossey encounter? Answer = DRAPE. Mmmm. I’m not enthusiastic. But I suppose a Fossey encounter would typically be a meeting of a doctor and an ape. And I suppose the question mark is suggesting that too. So I’ll let it go. I thought the “up” redundant too, but maybe that really is nitpicking.
16A: Still not happy. I agree that “evens” are a type of odds. But “most likely”???? Using that line of reasoning, consider a 3-1 favourite for a horse race. Sure it’s the most likely HORSE to win the race, but it’s not the most likely OUTCOME of the race. To say that “evens” = “most likely” is to draw an extremely long and unjustifiable bow. “Evens” means exactly that. It’s just as likely to happen as it is not to happen. I may not know much about horse racing, but I do know a bit about maths and probability. I hereby submit this clue as worthy of DA bullshit! Now if the clue had been simply “Odds, improbably!” I could have accepted that. I’ll get down from my high horse now!
C’mon trippers. Let’s have an opinion. Unless someone has another explanation, it seems that the justification for 16A rests on this premise:
most likely = EVENS.
My view is that if the odds of an event happening are “evens” then it’s a 50-50 proposition, meaning the event is just as likely not to happen as it is to happen, so “most likely” is an inappropriate clue. Haiku has explained the clue in the context of a horse race (with presumably more than two starters) where a horse at evens would be the favourite and therefore most likely to win. Is DA justified or is it DA bullshit?
RB, I don’t have the crossword to hand so I can’t check the exact wording of 16A (can future crosswords be uploaded as in the past?). But, as you say, the horse with odds at evens would be the most likely one to win (in the view of the punters)…
16A clue was: Most likely odds, improbably!
My contention is that for an event to be “most likely” it has to be “odds-on” e.g. 4/9, 4/5, 10/11 etc etc etc.
If the odds of an event happening are “evens” then it’s NOT “most likely”.
But if you think exclusively in terms of racing (horses, dogs) then I suppose “evens” is the “most likely” winner. Maybe I’ll just let it go!
RB, thank you for that – hadn’t spotted the cheongsam explanation.
I came up with a different explanation for 6D “drape” I took Fossey to refer to Fosseys, stores supplying linen and curtains.
That’s pretty neat! And if there had been an “s” on the end of “Fossey”, I might have bought it!
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