The Confusion (13th of February)

Here’s a first: no confusions!

Post a comment, though, if you’ve got something bugging you.

Having just read through the crossword again to work out what were the golden clues, I’ve realised that there is in fact the following confusion:

14 across: Sleeping bouncer relinquishes nothing for candy (8)

Here, we had bouncer relinquishes nothing = doorman, which means that candy = ce or candy = cy so that bouncer relinquishes nothing for candy = dormance or dormancy = sleeping. But how does the last step, candy = ce or candy = cy, work?

Also, is sleeping a grammatically-correct synonym for dormancy or dormance? I’m thinking not but am willing to be convinced otherwise.

18 thoughts on “The Confusion (13th of February)

  1. 16 across: Retail sterile cask (6)

    We assumed the answer was barrel because of “cask” and because we had _A_R_L, but how does “retail sterile” work?

    28 across: Name honest bloke, mid-fifties (5)

    We knew it started and ended with L, but we got fixated on “Lyell” but had no idea why until we saw the answer the next day and kicked ourselves that we’d missed such an obvious answer.

    The rest was pretty easy.

  2. 14 across: Sleeping bouncer relinquishes nothing for candy (8)

    candy = c and y = cy

  3. I personally loved the 7-down on this DA. White-Green Light viewed on Iron Chef.

    I was considering all sorts of words with the FE for Iron, until the Green-light literally went on… OK – WOK.

    But while on the subject – I don’t know about other solvers, but I don’t follow surfing and generally don’t like people’s names being used as complete answers. But that is just opinion.

  4. While explanations are being shared around, can anyone clear up 15D for me? Why does abdominal = Almost spotted slab, after a bottle opener upset old beer of six-pack?

  5. My lordy, C and Y — that one should have been seen.

    15D is quite a tricky one. It goes: spotted slab = domino, old beer = ale, a bottle opener = ab so that almost spotted slab after a bottle opener upset old beer = abdominal = six-pack.

  6. And you’re right, JF, 7-down does deserve to be in the Gold.

    Consider it done.

  7. 15D: I can’t quite completely nail this one. Old beer = ale, but why is Upset old beer = al?

    11A: How jockey sat on horse?! = astride. But where’s the crypticity?!

    6A: Vocal jabber cut = sawed. Presumably sawed is a homophone for sword. YUK! I have noted for some time that DA’s homophones are, to say the least, not very homophonic. Also jabber = sword? This is a bit tenuous, even for DA.

    2D: It looks like “coarse coat on this” = skye terrier. Once again, how tenuous can DA get? Would it be too much to ask for some sort of hint that the answer has a canine flavour?

  8. RE 15D: yep, upset old beer is a little rough as a shortener for ale to al, but it’s DA. In my more ardent days, I might have bothered to put that into DA Bullshit, but I’m feeling lazy these days.

    RE 11A: yep, I can’t see much crypticity there either — the clue sucks, really.

    RE 6A: I actually think this one is quite good. Jabber = sword I thought quite clever, and I have no problem considering sword and sawed homophonous.

    RE 2D: Yep, that’s just DA being DA. I still remember he turns majestically = muralidaran as a particularly nasty one.

  9. 11A: presumably you need to “jockey” the letters of “sat” and then put them on top of the “ride” = the horse. But then you have “jockey sat on horse” serving two masters – both the direct and indirect clues …

  10. 11A: Ah yes! Should’ve spotted that. Quite a clever clue really! As for serving two masters, I think that’s signposted by the exclamation mark (see DA’s article in The Age A2 Dec 26-27, where he says “wordplay also serves literally as definition”).

    14A: Earlier, someone asked “is sleeping a grammatically-correct synonym for dormancy”. Well, yes it is: sleeping can be a gerund as well as a present participle.

  11. I remember seeing that article at the time, but before I got around to reading it my copy had been thrown out. I wonder if it can be found on-line anywhere? Sounds like it might have been a useful resource to attach to this blog.

    Did the article refer to this clue type as an &lit? Is this the common understanding of what &lit refers to?

  12. Ah yes, sleeping is a sin and dormancy is a sin, which means sleeping and dormancy are both nouns and can be synonymously substituted for each other.

    &lit is definitely an 11A-type clue.

    I’ve been trying to hunt down The Age article online, but it doesn’t seem to have been printed there. I’ll post another place where you can get it though.

    Hold on a sec…

  13. Coming in late on the conversation re 2D: surely DA’s best-ever completely obscure direct clue was “Stone once” for “BILL WYMAN”. Muralidaran was another good one – we actually managed to get that one, didn’t we AS?

  14. With the help of many cross clues, RC in fact got out Muralidaran.

    It certainly was remiss of me though not to mention Stone once, which was extra hard because “Stone” was the first word of the clue, so it didn’t look like a proper noun, which made your getting it out, TH, extraordinary.

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