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	<description>&#34;A force for good&#34;, David Astle (DA)</description>
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		<title>By: housekeeping toys</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-5858</link>
		<dc:creator>housekeeping toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mate, thanks for  posting  but this page   is hard to read in Firefox  it is showing only half the page.</description>
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		<title>By: AS</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-299</link>
		<dc:creator>AS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, that&#039;s awesome. 

Andy is officially the go-to man.

Personally, I&#039;d like to see Andy go up against the cryptic crossword champion, Peter Biddlecombe. http://anagrammatically.com/cryptic/2008/05/25/a-23rd-of-may-perplexity/#comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, that&#8217;s awesome. </p>
<p>Andy is officially the go-to man.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to see Andy go up against the cryptic crossword champion, Peter Biddlecombe. <a href="http://anagrammatically.com/cryptic/2008/05/25/a-23rd-of-may-perplexity/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://anagrammatically.com/cryptic/2008/05/25/a-23rd-of-may-perplexity/#comments</a></p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-298</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome explanation, Andy.

That one has been bugging my subconscious for ages. It&#039;s so good to have it put to bed. What do you think, AS? I can see Andy is going to be our go to man in future for DA confusions, when all else fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome explanation, Andy.</p>
<p>That one has been bugging my subconscious for ages. It&#8217;s so good to have it put to bed. What do you think, AS? I can see Andy is going to be our go to man in future for DA confusions, when all else fails.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Livemore</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Livemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 22nd August 1 across:
             I think DA was really pushing the boundaries with this one as it involves three steps for each component of the solution , so if you&#039;ll bear with me.......
              (by the way , the dictionary confirms both definitions), anyway it goes like this:
             BEFORE= UNTIL= TILL ( as in time or event) &quot;until you change , I can&#039;t go out&quot;. Then IN or TRENDY= HIP = HEP(alternative spelling).So we get TILL circling HEP gives THE PILL .Phew! It&#039;s actually a beautifully concise clue but very tricky. Is this DA gold , nastiness or maybe DA&#039;s three degrees of separation?
P.S. I can understand why some cryptos refuse to walk down DA&#039;s street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 22nd August 1 across:<br />
             I think DA was really pushing the boundaries with this one as it involves three steps for each component of the solution , so if you&#8217;ll bear with me&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
              (by the way , the dictionary confirms both definitions), anyway it goes like this:<br />
             BEFORE= UNTIL= TILL ( as in time or event) &#8220;until you change , I can&#8217;t go out&#8221;. Then IN or TRENDY= HIP = HEP(alternative spelling).So we get TILL circling HEP gives THE PILL .Phew! It&#8217;s actually a beautifully concise clue but very tricky. Is this DA gold , nastiness or maybe DA&#8217;s three degrees of separation?<br />
P.S. I can understand why some cryptos refuse to walk down DA&#8217;s street.</p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am convinced Andy.

I was on the same track, trying to think of which synonym for ran could be the anagram fodder. I didn&#039;t think of ran to = cost. Brilliant!

Now if you would like to turn your mind to 22nd August
1 across: Before circling in, produces contraceptive (3, 4), answer = THE PILL, you would do us all a great service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am convinced Andy.</p>
<p>I was on the same track, trying to think of which synonym for ran could be the anagram fodder. I didn&#8217;t think of ran to = cost. Brilliant!</p>
<p>Now if you would like to turn your mind to 22nd August<br />
1 across: Before circling in, produces contraceptive (3, 4), answer = THE PILL, you would do us all a great service.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Livemore</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Livemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 6 across: AS, I have been cudgelling my alleged brain for days over this one. It&#039;s interesting that I went down the revolutionary i.e.Castro  route , some letters seemed to correspond. But no. After  a somewhat sleepless night ( I&#039;m not really a DA tragic) I had a eureka moment. Revolutionary seemed to me to be the cue instruction for an anagram. It all comes down to  &quot;ran to&quot; which expression is quite often used in such phrases as: &quot;Oh the amount I had to pay for renovations ran to  thousands of dollars&quot; In other words &quot;ran to &quot; is a  synonym for &quot;cost&quot; . So , anagram of &quot;cost&quot; gives &quot;stoc&quot; embracing &quot;i&quot; gives stoic. That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it . ( Would love to know DA&#039;s thoughts) He really is a legend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 6 across: AS, I have been cudgelling my alleged brain for days over this one. It&#8217;s interesting that I went down the revolutionary i.e.Castro  route , some letters seemed to correspond. But no. After  a somewhat sleepless night ( I&#8217;m not really a DA tragic) I had a eureka moment. Revolutionary seemed to me to be the cue instruction for an anagram. It all comes down to  &#8220;ran to&#8221; which expression is quite often used in such phrases as: &#8220;Oh the amount I had to pay for renovations ran to  thousands of dollars&#8221; In other words &#8220;ran to &#8221; is a  synonym for &#8220;cost&#8221; . So , anagram of &#8220;cost&#8221; gives &#8220;stoc&#8221; embracing &#8220;i&#8221; gives stoic. That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it . ( Would love to know DA&#8217;s thoughts) He really is a legend.</p>
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		<title>By: AS</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>AS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe I missed CASSEROLE!

I&#039;ve been foiled by those clues three weeks in a row!

13 down is super nasty. In fact, I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever seen a clue like that where the synonym becomes an instruction for wordplay. 

Thanks for the info everyone.

As for 6 across, Castro = Revolutionary might be a possibility given that Castro contains all the letters from STOIC except for the I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I missed CASSEROLE!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been foiled by those clues three weeks in a row!</p>
<p>13 down is super nasty. In fact, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever seen a clue like that where the synonym becomes an instruction for wordplay. </p>
<p>Thanks for the info everyone.</p>
<p>As for 6 across, Castro = Revolutionary might be a possibility given that Castro contains all the letters from STOIC except for the I.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Livemore</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Livemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 8 down: this is a regular &quot;twister&quot; or reversal that DA regularly throws in to jerk your brain around and can be found in &quot;bachELOR -ESSACtion. Turn round the capitals and you get  &quot;casserole&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 8 down: this is a regular &#8220;twister&#8221; or reversal that DA regularly throws in to jerk your brain around and can be found in &#8220;bachELOR -ESSACtion. Turn round the capitals and you get  &#8220;casserole&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Livemore</title>
		<link>http://datrippers.com/2008/11/07/the-confoundings-7th-november-2008/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Livemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re 22 across: This one is a bit Sydneycentric, but I think it goes like this:
horse = Arab(breed of horse) to drop tail &quot;b&quot; gives &quot;ara&quot;.Tang is another word for &quot;smack&quot; as in &quot;this smacks of trickery&quot;.Hence tang followed by ara gives Tangara.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re 22 across: This one is a bit Sydneycentric, but I think it goes like this:<br />
horse = Arab(breed of horse) to drop tail &#8220;b&#8221; gives &#8220;ara&#8221;.Tang is another word for &#8220;smack&#8221; as in &#8220;this smacks of trickery&#8221;.Hence tang followed by ara gives Tangara.</p>
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		<title>By: NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestion for 13 down: It is crazy, perhaps, for desktop to be clean (9)

It is = itis; crazy = insane. It is crazy = itis insane = itis IN sane (where IN is the containment indicator) = san itis e; desktop = d. Hence san itis e d = SANITISED = to be clean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion for 13 down: It is crazy, perhaps, for desktop to be clean (9)</p>
<p>It is = itis; crazy = insane. It is crazy = itis insane = itis IN sane (where IN is the containment indicator) = san itis e; desktop = d. Hence san itis e d = SANITISED = to be clean.</p>
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